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A Plea from a Marine in Iraq

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 08:03 am
Laughing
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 08:09 am
This just in - Iraq casualties exceed very early death tolls in all wars ever fought anywhere. More hand-wringing coming up on the next newscast. Now back to our soap opera.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 08:13 am
McGentrix wrote:
This isn't Vietnam. Anyone can get statistics to show anything and this statistic show nothing.


I hate being right all the time......
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 08:33 am
I was replying to you BPB, I was going to just ignore Suzy's article as it from November and was comparing apples and Oranges.

I neither attacked her, nor called her a liar as you presumed someone would, rather I explained why her article wasn't getting any play.

Your continuous call for supporters of the war to run and enlist, as has been pointed out in a different thread, equates to the right saying "love it or leave it". So, if you don't love America anymore, which most of your posts indicate, move.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 08:41 am
Or stay, and continue arguing for something more loveable.
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suzy
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:00 am
Smile
I got it in e-mail and thought someone might be interested, as I've seen reference to the comparison of Iraq/VietNam before. I recall that 58,000 soldiers lost their lives in VietNam, and that people here say there's no comparison. The article seems to say that it's getting into the realm of possibility. And with many arguing that we stay there indefinetly, well...
So, it seemed sensible to post it here.

On a different note, I hope the marines and other soldiers in Iraq weren't looking forward to BushCheney's thoughts to the 9/11 Commission, since they're forbidding any recording and won't be under oath anyway. Hmmph.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:15 am
McGentrix wrote:
I was replying to you BPB, I was going to just ignore Suzy's article as it from November and was comparing apples and Oranges.

I neither attacked her, nor called her a liar as you presumed someone would, rather I explained why her article wasn't getting any play.

Your continuous call for supporters of the war to run and enlist, as has been pointed out in a different thread, equates to the right saying "love it or leave it". So, if you don't love America anymore, which most of your posts indicate, move.


One thing's for sure old friend...if I depend on paper tigers like yourself to move me out, I'll die comfortably in my bed right here in NC. Nice attempt at John Wayne style bluster however there Sgt. Rock.

My love for America, many would agree I'm betting, shows in my disgust with those who are trying to transform it, and my impatience in those who blindly go along with it because the blinders are red white and blue.
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suzy
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:15 am
Well said!
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:18 am
http://www.sitnews.net/Columnist/032803_daryl_cagle.gif
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:21 am
Twenty-two miles back, behind a palm tree, a rusting metal post with tilting sign reads, "You are now entering Viet Nam."
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:23 am
Great cartoon I have to admit...and I think that one fortunate difference between Vietnam and Iraq although I think there are many similarities, is that the on the ground soldiers fighting and dying have the respect and care of most of the citizenry and aren't by and large being ridiculed and called baby killers and the like.

We seem to have matured to the point where we can tell who the real monsters are, mainly the war for profiteers monsters sending our children to war there. The ones on BOTH sides of the war.

That's a step in the right direction, and all journeys begin with a single step, apologies for the cliche.
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suzy
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 09:35 am
It is a good cartoon, and Blatham's comment makes it even better!
Frankly, the VietNam comparison means little to me. I already gave my reason for posting it. Just to be clear about that. Neutral
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mporter
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:03 am
Anyone who knows how to read can detect media bias in most news stories about Iraq.

The key is to look at adverbs and adjectives used.
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mporter
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:07 am
I think Bi-Polar is correct. Those profiting from the war must be punished. There should be a congressional investigation immediately to purge all 401K's so that no group or industry which is making profits from the war in Iraq could be held in the portfolios of Americans.
Boeing Aircraft comes to mind immediately. It is shameful that they should make profits from the manufacture of death dealing instruments of war.
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Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:13 am
I hope that this is being written at the appropriate time. All confusion would stop if you guys said hey all gods are great truely, lets partake worship simultaneously with our fellow human beings. It would be great it would be proud .If all troops honored the maybe original sumarians they would partake and stop this game of terror before it gets truely too ugly to bear.

If you love god,then unite and worship daily at the evening mosque, all at once to a higher force for peace you will see that things would change dramatically.

A good christian is a forgiving and that means compromising ans that means that you can ! worship beside someone else... out of respect. and through this the first answer of religion . Harmonony through respect to something greater that manefest no ill will on any other human or creature. it is this act that could bring witness to PEACE.

All through a simple act.It would be truely something all the soldgers could participate in.At 5:00 oclock or whatever time it takes place if all soldgers similtaneously take an oath of the highest standard of being and respectfully andpeacefully worship beside you other humans for the love of peace and goodwill on earth. You have the key of Ghandhis none violence to gude you. To lay down your arms and face death it might occur but continue to follow through on this sacrifice to jesus,if you may and do something so simple but yet so profound that could change all of history for the better.

Coemon you fellow Americans. Do something great equal and honest. Surprise the world and join to at least initiate a form of understanding that is unanimous too all.

Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.
As soon as you guys say hey yeah I can do that for reverence and good will and understanding. Go at the duskmass and wash feet and hands and observe you brothers and understand that through god peace can come and it will. It will stop like magic. If you are truely there ,do this for the love of humanity and love to worship beside your brotherr or be stricken from the book of life for being so unflexible that even your honor as an american, one who can obsolve all injustice with peacefull participation through the simultaneous wrespectfull worship of out Mother GOd Father Earth.
Peace will be with those who help the cause of true understanding for doing so little to achieve so much.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:13 am
Capitalism is alive and well in America. Let's hope it stays that way.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:14 am
Duplicate.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:15 am
mporter wrote:
I think Bi-Polar is correct. Those profiting from the war must be punished. There should be a congressional investigation immediately to purge all 401K's so that no group or industry which is making profits from the war in Iraq could be held in the portfolios of Americans.
Boeing Aircraft comes to mind immediately. It is shameful that they should make profits from the manufacture of death dealing instruments of war.


Oh brother. Tell that to all the people employed by Boing and Lockheed Martin and on down the line. That is one of the most socialist/communist statements I've ever read on A2K.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:26 am
cjhsa

mporter goes a touch too far for me as well.

But...weapons producers wish to/need to sell their product. War is, for them, a big happy. That's a real problem.

It becomes a rather bigger problem where Pentagon officials, weapons corporation officials and their spokespersons, and even administration officials so commonly simply shift from to another.

This does produce incentive (in classic capitalist style) to forward war, and threat of external danger so as to well product.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 10:32 am
McGentrix wrote:
Capitalism is alive and well in America. Let's hope it stays that way.


Typical one liner fluff from the king of it 'round these parts.

Boeing and Lockheed as examples are not the war profiteers of which I speak. I speak of the politicans who have partnered with them to privatize our government and will create and maintain war and conflict purposely in order to perpetuate their power and money base. These people exist on both sides of the war issue in abundance.

Like our penguin trying to find God knows what, the folks with a giant hard on for war in other words.
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