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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 05:35 pm
@parados,
Quote:
So you agree with Pinkie's logic that all acts committed by Muslims are caused by Islam?
All of these acts of barbarity done by MUslims in the name of Islam should be considered religious violence until and unless we know that the perps are lying.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 05:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
That would be "religious extremists." We also have those in this country called "christian extremists."

Our christian leaders lies to start illegal wars, and end up killing tens of thousands of innocent humans with the latest killing machines available to man.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 05:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
We also have those in this country called "christian extremists."

Not much, we are a post Christian country now. Religion matters very little in this society now. The few that are left tend to be noisy because they need to be to get noticed, otherwise no one else would care about their precious religion.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 06:43 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

So you agree with Pinkie's logic that all acts committed by Muslims are caused by Islam? Or maybe I should say all violent acts since he completely discounts the more than 90% of muslims that commit no violent acts.


I generally don't agree with any of those prejudgments. ALL and NEVER are hard standards to meet, and it is extremely implausible that "all (violent) acts committed by Moslems are caused by Islam. That said I wonder where you got your 90% number - sounds like BS to me.

There certainly is a great deal of evidence out there suggesting that anti Christian and anti Western attitudes and actions and other forms of intolerance are far more prevalent in the Moslem world than are anti Moslem actions in the West. In the late 1950s the Saudi Royal family build a rather beautiuful mosque in a choice piece of real estate on Massachusetts Ave (Embassy row) in Washington DC. It was noted in the local press at the time that Christian churches or even the overt practice of Christianity are explicitly prohibited throughout the Kingdom. The obvious hypocrisy left them undaunted.

I don't know of any Christian cohort comparable to ISIS in its efforts to exterminate non- believers. No sanctions on Christians who leave their faiths exist in the Western world, or are even advocated by any Christian sect I know of. Moslem doctrine allows/encourages apostates to be killed. In many areas that is an anachroinism no longer practiced, but in others it is enforced to varying degrees. The fact that the sanction exists even in theory is itself a significant distinguishing characteristic of Islam. Pretending it doesn't exist isn't a noble or elevated attitude: it is merely stupid.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 09:29 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Pretending it doesn't exist isn't a noble or elevated attitude: it is merely stupid.


That is exactly what he is doing by minimizing the violence with the vast numbers of Muslims. Wherever they go the violence follows. And it is inspired through religion. 9/11 is considered a pious act in Islam.
Quote:
There is plenty of other evidence. For example, twenty nations account for over 95 percent of terrorism activity in the world. Of these twenty (Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Yemen, Iran, Uganda, Libya, Egypt, Nigeria, Palestinian Territories, Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, Colombia, Algeria, Thailand, Philippines, Russia, Sudan, Iran, Burundi, India, Nigeria, and Israel) all but four of them (Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, Colombia, and Burundi) involve Islamic terrorism. In terms of terrorism fatalities the top four nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Somalia) accounted for 75 percent of the world total of terrorism related deaths. All of these were the result of Islamic radicalism, often directed at other Moslems and not just non-Moslems (infidels).


Yep. And Parados is as far away from noble as anyone I have run across.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htterr/20141112.aspx
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 10:43 pm
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141113-so-much-for-the-solyndra-scandal.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 10:44 pm
HEY cj DID YOU SEE THIS????!?!??!??!??

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141113-so-much-for-the-solyndra-scandal.jpg
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 10:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
HEY cj DID YOU SEE THIS????!?!??!??!??


I see a meme by the Democratic Underground. Do some work and source that link that says that.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 10:59 pm
5 million more votes for Democrats than for Republicans

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/05/3589157/millions-more-votes-were-cast-for-democrats-in-the-incoming-senate-than-for-republicans/

When the results from all three elections are combined, a total of 5,204,364 more votes were cast for Democrats than Republicans. To put that number in perspective, that’s nearly a quarter of a million more votes than the gap between the number of voters who supported President Obama in 2012 and the number that backed Republican Mitt Romney.

One caveat is in order, because votes are still being counted in the 2014 cycle, it is likely that the final margins between Democrats and Republicans will shift once the final vote tallies are released. Nevertheless, because the gap between Democratic votes cast and Republican votes cast during the three elections is very large — more than 5 million — it is extraordinarily unlikely that the 2014 numbers will shift enough to give Republicans a lead. In 2012, for example, ThinkProgress conducted a similar preliminary review of the total votes cast for U.S. House members, and determined that Democrats received slightly over half-a-million votes than Republicans in our preliminary tally. When all the ballots were cast, the actual gap between Democratic and Republican House candidates was closer to 1.4 million. Given that the shift from our preliminary tally in 2012 to the final tallies was less than one million votes, the chance that Republicans will make up a 5 million vote gap once all the ballots are counted is very small.

There are several possible explanations for how Republicans could enjoy a majority in the Senate when their candidates significantly underperformed their Democratic counterparts. One is the fundamentally anti-democratic nature of the Senate itself. Under the Constitution, each state receives two senators, regardless of population, which means that Wyoming residents effectively have 66 times as much representation in the Senate as Californians. In 2012, for example, 7,864,624 Americans voted to return Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to the Senate. At the exact same time, Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY) received just 185,250 to return him to the Senate. Yet Feinstein and Barrasso both get to cast exactly one vote in the Senate despite the fact that Feinstein represents far more people than Barrasso.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:03 pm
@coldjoint,
Just for you, asshole:

U.S. Expects $5 Billion PROFIT From Program That Funded Solyndra
By Justin Doom


The U.S. government expects to earn $5 billion to $6 billion from the renewable-energy loan program that funded flops including Solyndra LLC, supporting President Barack Obama’s decision to back low-carbon technologies.

The Department of Energy has disbursed about half of $32.4 billion allocated to spur innovation, and the expected return will be detailed in a report due to be released as soon as tomorrow, according to an official who helped put together the data.

The results contradict the widely held view that the U.S. has wasted taxpayer money funding failures including Solyndra, which closed its doors in 2011 after receiving $528 million in government backing. That adds to Obama’s credibility as he seeks to make climate change a bigger priority after announcing a historic emissions deal with China.

A $5 billion return to taxpayers exceeds the returns from many venture capital and private equity investments in clean energy, said Michael Morosi, an analyst at Jetstream Capital LLC, which invests in renewable energy.

more
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-12/u-s-expects-5-billion-from-program-that-funded-solyndra.html
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:09 pm
US companies hire at fastest pace in 7 years
Source: AP-EXCITE

By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. companies ramped up hiring in September, and more Americans were confident enough to quit their jobs — two signs of a steadily improving economy. The number of available jobs declined but remained at a healthy level.

More than 5 million people were hired in September, the most since December 2007 when the recession began, the Labor Department said Thursday. And the number of people who quit their jobs jumped to 2.75 million from 2.5 million. That's the most in more than six years.

More quitting and hiring means that the job market is becoming more dynamic, which creates additional opportunities for the unemployed. Greater quitting is a good sign for several reasons: People are more likely to leave jobs when they have a new position lined up, usually one that is higher-paying. Workers also quit when they are more confident they can find a new job. And quits open more positions that can be filled by those out of work, or by people seeking higher pay.

"If this pickup is sustained it will add to the evidence that wage acceleration is likely in 2015," said Jeremy Schwartz, an economist at Credit Suisse.

FULL story at link.


http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/93863376934-Job_Openings_20141113.jpeg
In this photo taken Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2014, job seekers fill out a job applications at a job fair in Miami Lakes, Fla. The Labor Department releases job openings and labor turnover survey for September on Thursday, Nov. 13, 2014. (AP Photo/Alan Diaz)


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141113/us--job_openings-4844bdff8b.html
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

U.S. Expects $5 Billion PROFIT From Program That Funded Solyndra
By Justin Doom


<snip>

more
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-12/u-s-expects-5-billion-from-program-that-funded-solyndra.html



Silly! Rolling Eyes

Bloomberg is a Communist. You can't believe what you read at Bloomberg.com...
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:21 pm
@coldjoint,
Here you are, dipshit, another one!

'Scandalous' Solyndra Program Actually Earned Taxpayers a $5 Billion Profit

by Jeff Spross at Think Progress


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/13/3592107/doe-loan-program-profit/

"SNIP...........................


The much-maligned government program that funded the failed solar tech company Solyndra is expected to make taxpayers a $5 to $6 billion return, Bloomberg Businessweek reported on Wednesday.


The loan program is run out of the Department of Energy (DOE), and covers a large umbrella of investments to encourage green energy and low-carbon technologies. According to Businessweek, the expected positive returns on those investments are detailed in a new report DOE will be releasing, perhaps as early as Thursday, on the loan program’s performance — the first such estimate the agency has made of the fruits of its efforts.

The program has the authority to spend as much as $40 billion, and has allocated $32.4 billion of that to a portfolio with dozens of specific projects. Half of the $32.4 billion has already been paid out, in loans that average a 22-year lifecycle. The Energy Department expects the full $5 to $6 billion return to come in over that total time period. But $3.5 billion of the principal for those loans has already been paid back by the various companies that received them, and the government has already garnered over $810 million in interest payments. The portfolio’s losses only amount to $780 million so far, and they aren’t expected to rise above $2 billion once everything is said and done — a fraction of the $10 billion in losses the government anticipated when it originally designed the program.

This stands in stark contrast to the image critics painted of the program. In 2011, the solar tech company Solyndra collapsed after receiving $528 million from the program, setting off a political feeding frenzy and embarrassing the White House.




..........................SNIP"

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 12:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
'Scandalous' Solyndra Program Actually Earned Taxpayers a $5 Billion Profit
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22-year lifecycle. The Energy Department expects the full $5 to $6 billion return to come in over that total time period..


So let me see if I have this....5 years into a program the government is claiming that over the 22 year life span of the program ( and keep in mind that government speculation on what will happen over 15 years into the future to finance sheets tends to be about as accurate as a consult with Madam Cleo) it will earn 12% more than it costs extra? That is .5% per year when inflation at best runs over 2% per year and often a lot more? That is to say that in 22 years the money devoted to this will buy less than it did when the money was spent. And this is claimed to be a success?

REALLY?

But the point of the program never was to make money, it was to promote important industry that would not be able to get funds any other way. How is this program doing towards doing what it was supposed to do?

Not too well I take it, as all we get told is some crappola about how a program that is losing money on an inflation adjusted basis is defying the sceptics by being successful when making money was never the point.


Please tell me that the American people are at least smart enough to not buy this drivel. And the politicians sit around wondering why the American people dont trust Washington to either accomplish **** or to tell the truth. Drunk
Kolyo
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 01:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Oh. And just in case anyone missed it, my last post in this thread was joke, a parody of tea party extremism. No one, so I thought, would take a claim that the world's 16th richest man was a communist seriously. But you never know these days what the GOP will say...
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 08:24 am
@Kolyo,
My reply was for coldfart, not you!

Comrade Bloomberg is the Commissar of the People's Republic of Noo Yawk. We all know that!!!!
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 09:46 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:

I generally don't agree with any of those prejudgments. ALL and NEVER are hard standards to meet, and it is extremely implausible that "all (violent) acts committed by Moslems are caused by Islam. That said I wonder where you got your 90% number - sounds like BS to me.

There are over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Most live without committing violence. Less than 20% live in the mideast and Northern Africa.

Quote:
Moslem doctrine allows/encourages apostates to be killed. In many areas that is an anachroinism no longer practiced, but in others it is enforced to varying degrees.
Once again, I bet you can't find more than 10% of Muslims that would practice this.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 09:50 am
@hawkeye10,
You complain that a program that wasn't designed to make money is only making .5% a year in profit? Do you have any other idiotic complaints you want to make? Shouldn't you complain that your wife's dick isn't long enough?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 10:57 am
@parados,
Not only that, but using a book (Koran) to declare their whole religion as one thing or another is quite silly. The bible is full of god's command to kill nonbelievers, and so does the Torah.

Quote:
"There is far more violence in the Bible than in the Qur'an; the idea that Islam ... and by extension their Jewish descendants, to fight and kill gentiles. .... and children were killed: Muhammad authorized his followers to use .
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2014 11:07 am
@parados,
Quote:
Once again, I bet you can't find more than 10% of Muslims that would practice this.


10% is more than enough. Islam is incompatible with freedom. And why won't the 90% stop them?
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