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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2014 10:48 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech -
See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/04/sharia-america-democrats-muslim-legislators-seek-criminalize-free-speech.html/#sthash.IZsfa4gC.dpuf

Yeah, those nasty Republicans.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 10:48 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Republicans teach hate and violence.. To deny it is to show ignorance of the worst kind.


FIXT

There you go. It has as much meaning as your statement since both are nothing more than opinions that can be supported with anecdotal evidence.


On the other hand, it's a fact that North Korea is a Republic. To deny a fact is to show ignorance of the worst kind.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:02 am
@parados,


Quote:
There you go. It has as much meaning as your statement since both are nothing more than opinions that can be supported with anecdotal evidence.


That statement about Islam? It has plenty of meaning. And a big stack of dead bodies. And a Shill like you that denies it.

Anything else you paid Blowhole?
parados
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:03 am
@coldjoint,
Christianity has a big stack of bodies. Do you deny that?
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:19 am
@parados,
Quote:
Christianity has a big stack of bodies. Do you deny that?


Please post any Christian activity like this.
Quote:
Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.11.12 (Karnaz, Syria) - Seven children are bleed out after Sunni terrorists fire a rocket into their school.
2014.11.12 (Baghdad, Iraq) - A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out eleven people milling around a town square.
2014.11.11 (Rim, Nigeria) - Muslim gunmen target church-goers, killing one.
2014.11.11 (Peshawar, Pakistan) - A local Shia leader is picked off in a grocery store by Sunni gunmen.
2014.11.11 (Bajaur, Pakistan) - Three guards are killed when fundamentalist bombers target an anti-polio medical team.
2014.11.10 (Potiskum, Nigeria) - A horrific suicide blast at a school assembly claims the lives of sixty students and teachers.

* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.


This is not about the past. It is about the present.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:26 am
@coldjoint,
Please provide evidence that any of those attacks were because of Islam.

Without providing direct evidence then merely belonging to the religion is evidence that the religion is causing violence. Ever hear of the Italian Mob? They are Catholic.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:28 am
@parados,
As you can see, many people have myopia disease. They can't see themselves as they are able to attack others with similar characteristics.

It's called 'racial/religious small-minded bigots.'
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:28 am
@parados,
Quote:
Please provide evidence that any of those attacks were because of Islam.

The Koran. The Hadiths. And the clerics that teach it.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:32 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's called 'racial/religious small-minded bigots.'


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/TROP.jpg

Those are the ones behind these attacks.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:36 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Christianity has a big stack of bodies. Do you deny that?


So does Islam. The undeniable fact is that Moslems living in Christian countries generally enjoy much greater freedom of religious and cultural expression than do Christians living in Moslem countries. Indeed in many Moslem countries the public practice of any religion other than Islam is explicitly prohibited by laws that are actively enforced.

Secondly the Islamic world never developed an enduring tradition of secular or non-religious government as did the Christian West. The Ottoman Empire evolved into a fairly close approximation of that with a system of toleration for minority cultures and religion. Unfortunately for the world it was destroyed by the coordinated actions of Britain, France and Russia in WWI. The Baath party organized in Syria and Iraq after WWI, based on German influences that continued through WWI was a second. Unfortunately it degenerated into authoritarian rule under figures like Assad and Hussein, and we contributed to its destruction. Now the Moslem world needs to face the evolution Chritian Europe went through in the Thirty Years War and the Enlightenment that followed - a big challenge with uncertain prospects.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:45 am
@georgeob1,
Islamic jihad is responsible for 270 million deaths and still counting.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 11:50 am
@georgeob1,
In Central Asia where the majority are Muslims (I think it's over 80%), it's against the law to promote any religion. They do not have the violence of the Middle East countries we hear about so often.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
They do not have the violence of the Middle East countries we hear about so often.

Quote:
Thailand: No More Mister Nice Guy

Quote:
November 8, 2014: Over the last week the government announced a series of new measures to address the Islamic terrorism problem. This included a promise to achieve peace in the south by the end of 2015. To help make that happen an additional 2,000 police would be sent to the three Moslem provinces in the south with half the new police recruited from those three provinces. The government has recently distributed 2,700 assault rifles to self-defense volunteers in the south, mostly in rural Buddhist villages vulnerable to attack.


https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/thai/articles/20141108.aspx
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:19 pm
@coldjoint,
That is hardly evidence about the specific attacks you mentioned. It is generic info that you are assigning to people without knowing if they have even read the Koran.
parados
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:22 pm
@georgeob1,
Yes? Islam is practiced in backward countries.

If you want to argue that German influences occurred then we could point to that for the antisemitism in Islam, could we not?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:29 pm
@parados,
Not only read but understand the primary message of Islam. They need to study the Torah, Bible, and the Koran to get an understanding of what they're trying to say out of ignorance.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:29 pm
@parados,
Quote:
It is generic info that you are assigning to people without knowing if they have even read the Koran.


The people dying need to hear that. ******* loser.
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coldjoint
 
  1  
Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Torah, Bible, and the Koran to get an understanding

Quote:
In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle.

– John Quincy Adams
6th president of the United States


This man understood. That was when presidents did their jobs.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 12:59 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Yes? Islam is practiced in backward countries.

If you want to argue that German influences occurred then we could point to that for the antisemitism in Islam, could we not?


I'm not arguing anything. I'm merely stating verifiable historical facts. "Backward" was your term, not mine.

In general after WWI and the imposition of British and French colonialism in the Middle East, a few secular leaning political movements arose there with modernist aims similar to the revolution that Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk) was then imposing on a newly forming Turkey. Probably naturally they looked to European models other than those of the British and French who were then imposing colonial rule on them (this after the WWI Arab uprising against the Ottomans largely inspired and financed by the British). This led to the formation of the Baath Party, which did indeed promise modenist secular government, and largely kept peace among the various Moslem sects (and the several Druz, Jewish and Christian comunities) there. Unfortunately it degenerated intho the authoritarian rule of figures like Assad and Saddam Hussein.

Now there appears to be little or none of all that left, except perhaps in Egypt. Old conflicts between Sunni and Shia have erupted, now complicated by reemerging old tensions between the Farsi speaking Iranians and their Arab neighbors - a fairly complex situation that promises continuing struggles.

I'm not pointing at any sources for anti Semitism at all, However, it appears obvious that a reaction to the Post WWII creation of a Jewish state by desperate Jewish emigrees fleeing persecution in the European war and finding themselves generally unwelcome in their old homes in its aftermath (the euphamism for them then was "displaced persons") was the most likely cause, particularly coming as it did in the wake of the post WWI betrayal of Arab national aspirations by the British and French.

parados
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2014 05:12 pm
@georgeob1,
So you agree with Pinkie's logic that all acts committed by Muslims are caused by Islam? Or maybe I should say all violent acts since he completely discounts the more than 90% of muslims that commit no violent acts.
 

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