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@One Eyed Mind,

Bullets and surgery has absolutely nothing to do with inflation. Your analogy not only stinks, but has no relationship to the subject under discussion.

Inflation has to do with economics and monetary policies.

Again, where did you study Economics? Or is that too difficult a question to answer.

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@cicerone imposter,

Do you not get the metaphor?

Inflation is like a bullet.

When it hits it not only hits, it releases shrapnel that gets lost in the system, which causes the system to erode over time.

Trying to take out the bullet slowly isn't going to make things better because of the shrapnel. The entire system needs to be fixed, not just the wound - unless you want it to fail time after time again.

This is the definition of insanity. People would rather patch a broken system than build a new one and wonder why their ships sink.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

georgeob1 wrote:

Are you implying that all government spending creates jobs without limit?????

Would you like to build a bigger strawman? I never said any such thing.

Your statement implied that government spending never creates jobs. Government spending may not be the most efficient way to create jobs but it doesn't mean it never creates jobs.

Your statement was this:

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Evidently Bobsal believes government programs funded by taxes create

jobs.

If Bobsal believes that government programs funded by taxes creates jobs then he is correct. To say government programs funded by taxes create no jobs is false.

You have a strange habit of leaving out qualifying words like "sometimes" or "always" or "in certain circumstances" from your own statements, while demanding that others read your mind and imagine just the needed ones are there, and then, even in the most obvious cases, faulting others for doing exactly the same.

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@georgeob1,

Absolution is the genesis of arrogance.

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@georgeob1,

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You have a strange habit of leaving out qualifying words like "sometimes" or "always" or "in certain circumstances" from your own statements, while demanding that others read your mind and imagine just the needed ones are there, and then, even in the most obvious cases, faulting others for doing exactly the same.

He, Parados, is as devious as they come. He is a paid shill.

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@georgeob1,

Wow. Do you not read your own statements.

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Are you implying that all government spending creates jobs without limit?????

"Without limit" is a qualifier I disagree with which is why your argument is a strawman.

All government spending creates jobs in some fashion or another. It may not create much of a job but it does create a job. Because it creates a job in no way implies that it is "without limit". That is your nonsense that you wanted to add that is in no way in my statement.

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@One Eyed Mind,

So, you are arguing that inflation and deflation are both dangerous? Or are you simply talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about?

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@One Eyed Mind,

Your metaphor would only work if you can explain why 1% inflation will kill an economy.

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@parados,

Considering that you personally do not pay much attention to the stupidity of the political decisions, really tells us all who here really is talking out of their posterior. Tell me right now that there isn't a single part of you that isn't angry at the sheer stupidity of these politicians - every single group - not just one group. All of them are doing something in their own way to screw up this society for some extra pocket money.

Inflation is bad - the fact that deflation is just as bad, truly shows how much damage inflation is. It only has draw backs - when you implement it, you can't remove it without it further damaging the system. That is a first class problem.

Just imagine if politicians designed the nuclear bomb - you wouldn't be kissing up to your idiot role-models then.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Wow. Do you not read your own statements.

Quote:
Are you implying that all government spending creates jobs without limit?????

"Without limit" is a qualifier I disagree with which is why your argument is a strawman.

All government spending creates jobs in some fashion or another. It may not create much of a job but it does create a job. Because it creates a job in no way implies that it is "without limit". That is your nonsense that you wanted to add that is in no way in my statement.

No, you are wrong. I believe there may be some basic principles in logic you either don't understand or merely ignore. When you say, "All government spending creates jobs... " You are saying that any and every element of government spending creates jobs. That is patently false. You ignore the illogic of your own phrase, but are truly relentless in finding such things in the words of others. I don't know whether to lay that off to a meanness of spirit in you;an irrational desire to find fault or merely careless stupidity.

Either way you persistently sidetrack arguments to trivial issues and garble your text with empty phrases that only appear to have meaning, but either don't, or are patently false.

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@georgeob1,

From Wiki on federal government employment.

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The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) is an American labor union representing over 650,000 employees of the federal government, about 5,000 employees of the District of Columbia, and a few hundred private sector employees,

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@cicerone imposter,

How would you like to get 1.5% of the wages of 650,000 government workers, without their consent and agreement, and you don't even have to send out invoices - the money is deposited in your account automatically bey the government. It' has all been done by the stroke of a presidential pen. In addition the government gives you about 1 full time paid employee for about every 150 others who get full pay but have no work to do but serve the union.

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@georgeob1,

Then, you admit, they do create jobs. Most educators are paid by government; they are paid jobs with pension plans.

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How Much Does The Government Spend To Send A Kid To Public School?
by LAM THUY VO
June 21, 2012 3:46 PM ET

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@cicerone imposter,

There's a difference between creating jobs for immigrants and creating jobs for our actual citizens.

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@cicerone imposter,

I don't know what he said, but he confuses denying everything with debate.

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@bobsal u1553115,

He's denying non-reputable sources. That's evidence that the man uses his brain, instead of parroting information from puppets that are not followed by the wise men of our humanity, which mean these people you listen to are not wise, but foolish.

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@georgeob1,

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"All government spending creates jobs... " You are saying that any and every element of government spending creates jobs. That is patently false.

Ok. tell us which part of government spending doesn't create a job somewhere.
All money spent by the government goes to someone that has a job or is spending the money where people have jobs. Find me a single program of the US government that you think creates no jobs.

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@One Eyed Mind,

One Eyed Mind wrote:

Considering that you personally do not pay much attention to the stupidity of the political decisions, really tells us all who here really is talking out of their posterior. Tell me right now that there isn't a single part of you that isn't angry at the sheer stupidity of these politicians - every single group - not just one group. All of them are doing something in their own way to screw up this society for some extra pocket money.

I would hazard a guess that I pay a lot more attention to what the government actually does than you do.

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Inflation is bad - the fact that deflation is just as bad, truly shows how much damage inflation is. It only has draw backs - when you implement it, you can't remove it without it further damaging the system. That is a first class problem.

By your argument about inflation/deflation we would have to assume you think the economy is always bad. Is that what you are really saying? If the economy is growing at 5% it's bad?

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Just imagine if politicians designed the nuclear bomb - you wouldn't be kissing up to your idiot role-models then.

If politician designed the nuclear bomb, it wouldn't be a nuclear bomb. What's your point?

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@georgeob1,

http://www.urban.org/publications/412142.html

"Abstract

The need for direct public job creation efforts is greater today than at any time during the past seven decades. With a national unemployment rate that recently exceeded 10 percent, a new federal initiative that puts jobless individuals immediately to work must be a central element of any strategy for restoring economic growth and responding to pressing human needs in 2010 and beyond. Public service employment and transitional jobs programs offer tested and urgently needed models for combating the current recession and advancing longer-term workforce development goals."

Sometimes the Fed needs to do stimulus spending. FDR proved it works. Strictly speaking the Military in peace time is tax funded jobs, and so is a busy defense industry.

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@parados,

You mean by stabbing your eyes out and listening to what people tell you, while they are mocking you with body language that you cannot see? Yeah, I bet you do. I bet you know the government more than me, like conspiracy theorists know the government - yep, if your emotions feel real, then the information must be real.

Where is all the money going? The 1%. In other words, this economy is eroding further and further and further. Before you know it, that 1% will go down to 0.8% and keep going until it's 0.1%. Why? Money is losing its value as time goes by. Those "stacks" gang members are making won't mean anything in the future because $20,000 will be chump change. A million dollars is no longer rich. So yes, this entire system is eroding and you encouraging it with numbers you got from non-reputable sources is not helping it.

The point is, politicians can't shape this world - wise men, comedians, great men, scientists - they shape this world. Why is politics here again? And why is it using a bipartisan system, when the founding fathers warned us about what it will do; and what's this? Everything they warned us about is happening - politicians can't even shape a world that's happening now, while wise men were seeing things before they happened.

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