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Congratulations, House Republicans!

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 12:42 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
What mind? LOL
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 12:47 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
So you can't answer the question? That's fine by me, I didn't expect one. So that means since it isn't in the Constitution as a power granted to the feds, why do you continue to support the federal govt over stepping it's bounds? Keep this in mind, the Constitution doesn't tell the American people what they can and can't do, it tells the Federal govt what it can and can't do.

What you propose is ditching the Constitution because you feel the federal govt should have the right to change and or do these things. We will have to disagree. The SCOTUS has said that corporations can have free speech, this is the same SCOTUS that said the ACA was Constitutional. Never before in the US has the federal govt said you HAD to buy something, and never before have they said business is a person. Which decision was better? I think they both suck to be honest.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 01:02 pm
@Baldimo,
Yours was a stupid question. The better question is: is it Constitutional to create a system where a significant portion of the population as a class are kept from maintaining a minimal lifestyle? You know, the right to pursuit of happiness?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 01:32 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Here's an excellent article of the SCOTUS overstepping its boundaries.
Quote:
Beyond Judicial Activism: When The Supreme Court Is No ...
https://www.law.upenn.edu/.../M...
University of Pennsylvania Law School
by ML Moses - ‎Cited by 6 - ‎Related articles
should be boundaries that the Court is required to meet, and that those boundaries ..... is overstepping its judicial role and acting more like a legislative body.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 01:50 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Just because you don't like the question doesn't make it stupid. Does the Constitution allow for the federal govt to set wages? The answer is no, it doesn't. What you are doing is finding a way to get around the Constitution so that the govt can have more power. Asking if that power is in the Constitution is not stupid. Like I said the Constitution is to limit the power of the federal govt, to tell it what it can and can't do. You want to grant powers to the federal govt that are not there.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 02:17 pm
Quote:
The House GOP Border Plan Just Blew Up In Its Face
Business Insider By Brett LoGiurato
1 hour ago


House Republican leadership abruptly postponed and then ultimately pulled a vote on its plan to deal with the crisis along the U.S.-Mexico border on Thursday, after a conservative revolt left leadership short of the votes needed to pass the bill.

Soon after House leaders pulled the bill, however, a 3 p.m. ET Republican conference meeting was scheduled in an apparent attempt to revive the bill. Members were advised that additional votes were still possible.

The original pulling of the bill served as a remarkable setback for House Speaker John Boehner and the incoming House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, who had whipped support for the border bill.

This week, House conservatives revolted against the Republican-led border plan, which provides about $659 million in emergency spending for the border crisis through the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30.

The Republican dissent was led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the conservative freshman firebrand who has miffed House leadership before by meddling in the House's affairs (most notably, last year, ahead of the government shutdown ).

Cruz has led a wing of conservatives who say any border legislation should include a provision to stop the expansion of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which shields hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation. Many of the immigrants who have been part of the recent influx coming over the border have been unaccompanied minors, but they are not eligible for the DACA program.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 07:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Now that the House republicans passed legislation to sue the president for overstepping his authority, the president should sue the house for not acting on emergency bills to take care of the children at the Mexican border, and being the most unproductive congress in history.

I'm sure the Senate will be more than happy to act on such an action. The first suit should be, no work results in no pay and benefits.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 07:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Because the very rich pay them big bucks to keep it that way?
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 07:34 pm
@Baldimo,
Its not stupid because I say it is, its stupid because its stupid.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 07:37 pm
@Baldimo,
Its not stupid because I say it is, its stupid because its stupid.

Law and the Surpreme Courts have said that minimum wage is a parvenu of the Federal Government over and over for almost 100 years, what you don't understand about government and the Constitution fills books. None of which you've apparently read.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:09 pm
http://media.cagle.com/112/2014/06/27/150281_600.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:16 pm
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/1779214_751472471532718_141881515_n.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:17 pm
http://firebrandprogressives.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/boehnercryingGIF.gif
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 06:02 am
@bobsal u1553115,
A true leader !! Not concerned about other opinions. Lovely Rolling Eyes
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 06:34 am
@woiyo,
Against the those who have the opinion the President came from Kenya, is a socialist, a Nazi, a Muslim, hates white people? I don't care about their opinions or yours, either. You all pull your opinions from your nether regions. That's my opinion and I bet you don't care about it, too.

Some leader you'd make.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 06:35 am
Boehner Encourages Obama To Take Executive Action, One Day After Voting To Sue Obama Over It
Source: ThinkProgress

Hours before Congress broke for the August recess, House Republicans claimed that the President could use executive action to fix the border situation with unaccompanied children fleeing violence in the Central American countries of Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. In a press statement released Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and other House Republican leaders indicated that President Obama could address the crisis “without the need for congressional action,” a statement tinged with some irony given that just the day before, House Republicans had slammed the President with a lawsuit claiming executive overreach.

“This situation shows the intense concern within our conference – and among the American people – about the need to ensure the security of our borders and the president’s refusal to faithfully execute our laws,” the House Republican leadership press release stated. “There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries.”

Boehner made the statement even though the House still had time Thursday before it broke for the August recess to vote through a $659 million supplemental emergency bill to deal with the child arrivals at the border. The House could still potentially offer up a fix to the border situation when the GOP holds an emergency meeting on Friday morning. Still, Republican leaders are struggling to reach the necessary 218 vote threshold, with some calling on a vote for a separate measure that would defund a 2012 presidential initiative that grants temporary deportation reprieve and work authorization for some undocumented immigrants.

At odds with Boehner’s statement is a lawsuit that House Republicans had authorized Wednesday, which criticizes the President over claims that he had unlawfully overused executive orders. The lawsuit enumerates a number of areas in which they allege Obama had employed executive overreach, but they especially targeted the President for not fully implementing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Their lawsuit does not specifically mention immigration. Republicans often cite a 2012 executive order known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program as a prime example of executive overreach.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/07/31/3466389/boehner-tells-obama-take-executive-action-but-lawsuit/
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 07:53 am
@bobsal u1553115,
They are nuts...and the people giving them their support should be ashamed of themselves.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:33 am
@bobsal u1553115,
There are two sides to this craziness. The first is that the GOP is known for their hatred of women, minorities, students, seniors, gays and lesbians, against increasing the minimum wage, and being the least productive congress in our history.

1. Why then do they continue to get voted back into congress?

2. Why do conservatives not speak out against this craziness?

Is there any hope of change? I doubt it!

woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
So your definition of a leader is one who does not at least listen to the opinion of others? Dictators feel that way.
woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:38 am
@cicerone imposter,
The crazies are the one who paint all with a broad brush. How can you think of yourself as objective when you hold such prejudice? You are no better than the crazies on the "right" and "left".

What we need are people and politicians who listen, think and compromise. I doubt you would support someone with those qualities.
 

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