I was 19 in 1967 when I saw the newspaper headlines- "IT'S WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST!" as Israeli tanks (many supplied by America) rolled into Palestine, and I remember thinking "Is Israel allowed to do that? Is it legal?"
It was all over within a few days and became known as the "Six-Day War", but the Palestinians and the muslim world don't see it that way and regard the war as still ongoing for the 47 years right up to the present day.
They've got a point and I can't see any prospect of peace til Israel gets out of Palestine.
The trouble really started as long ago as 1948 when the Israelis decided to create Israel smack in the middle of muslim lands-
Sounds a bit cheeky to me, no wonder the muslims were miffed and started sporadically shelling and sniping at Israel.
Quote:Advocate said: Israel has a 5,000 year history in that little piece of the ME. That piece is hardly Muslim land
Tell the muslims that!
Why don't the great American people start saying "Why the hell are we propping up Israel? What has Israel ever done for us?"
Why did the muslims hit America with 9/11?
When the muslim world gets its hands on backpack-nukes it'll really hit the fan, Saddam spelt it out-
"Does America realize the meaning of every Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross to countries and cities?" -Saddam Hussein, September 29, 1994
That's why America should start falling away from Israel NOW because Israel is bristling with nukes and well able to defend herself anyway, she certainly doesn't need American help in that respect!
And a split from America would benefit Israel too, because Israel will have a free hand to do as she pleases without Washington's interference..
InfraBlue wrote:What’s more if “the Jewish people” have been there for about 4,000 years, the Palestinians have been there longer because they are made up of peoples that predate the advent of Judaism and peoples that had professed Judaism after its advent, and peoples that profess and have professed other religions.
The Palestinians were a neighboring people. They were part of the same Canaanite population during the Bronze Age. But during the Iron Age, when the Israelites lived in the West Bank area, the Palestinians instead lived in one of the kingdoms that bordered Israel. They were Edomites or Moabites, or something similar to that.
InfraBlue wrote:The Zionist, and their enablers, namely the US and Europe, have yet to learn that peace will never be achieved by violating the Palestinian peoples’ rights to Palestine.
If the Palestinians refuse to accept 1967 borders, they will be packed up in buses and driven to Gaza.
The Palestinians lived throughout Palestine, your simplistic distiction between them and "Israelites" notwithstanding.
The Palestinians are the decendants of the "Israelites"
Where is this "genetic science" of yours, other than in the figments of your imagination?
The Palestinians lived throughout Palestine, your simplistic distiction between them and "Israelites" notwithstanding. The Palestinians are the decendants of the "Israelites" and the other ancient peoples of Palestine. The handful of "Jews" that were there when the Zionists began to arrogate Palestine were also decendants of the "Israelites" and the other peoples of Palestine.
yet they were all Palestinians from the land of Palestine
Oh yeah, maxdancona's article that you cited which you proceeded to completely ignore and instead write your flights of fancy.
That dog won't hunt.
For some to say there is no such people as Palestinians, then they must also include the descendants of the Hebrews.
It is said Palestinians have more of the ancient Jewish DNA in them than the European Jews.
Only dishonest people who make up fraudulent claims would ever say such nonsense.
InfraBlue wrote:Oh yeah, maxdancona's article that you cited which you proceeded to completely ignore and instead write your flights of fancy.
That dog won't hunt.
You cannot cite a single occurrence of me ignoring the results of that study, or writing anything that deviates from the results of that study.
oralloy wrote:You cannot cite a single occurrence of me ignoring the results of that study, or writing anything that deviates from the results of that study.
Yes I can. You said, "genetic science shows that the Palestinians were a separate population from the Israelite culture. Therefore the Palestinians lived somewhere else."
Like I said yours are flights of fancy that completely ignore the article you cite.