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Thoughts on gay marriage

 
 
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:01 pm
yes it does
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2004 07:57 pm
aha, my double posting traits are catching..
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justoneofthegals
 
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Reply Thu 6 May, 2004 01:56 pm
Seriously, anti-gay marriage is such crap!! I mean, on one hand people talk about (man-woman) marriages in Las Vegas being "just a Vegas thing", and on the other hand they feel the need to maintain the sanctity of opposite sex marriages by making gay marriages illegal!! That too in a country that has the maximum number of divorces (man-woman again!). Grow up, anti-gay-marriage groups!
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 10 May, 2004 10:28 am
Not getting updates . . .

I think so-called reality television shows are more anti-marriage than allowing gay people to marry.

I watched the opening of one of the bachelor shows -- The Return of Adam -- and thought the whole thing was something like a slave auction.

Reducing people to body parts and expecting them to pick a mate is awful.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 12:37 pm
Several weeks ago, I saw the derivation for Philadelphia -- philos meaning love; delphia, meaning from the same womb. That made me think of Delphi.

I have an old book on Delphi by Joseph Frontenrose, which I picked up while I was writing my thesis. I glanced at it but did not use it.

I started reading this book because of the above event. The book discusses the many times Herakles (Hercules) defended Delphi and the times he asked a king to marry his daughter, and, when the king denied the privelege, old Herakles would kill him and imprison his daughter.

Now, I knew Herakles meant follower of Hera and that HEra is the goddess of marriage. Hmmmm. So, this follower of the goddess of marriage asks for the hand of princesses; is denied (because he is already married); kills his fathers-in-law and carries off his brides.

What does that tell you about marriage?
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BCP1
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2004 05:25 pm
For it.
I already refer to my partner as my "wife"

We bought a house together, but actually had to form a limited partnership to do it and buy it in the company name.
how is that right?
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Nathor
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2004 06:15 pm
*standing in front of the firing squad*
I'm not for it.
Yes, I'm a christian, yes I believe that marriage is a spiritual experience as well as a contractual one.
I also believe that sex is a spiritual union as well as a physical one.
I don't blame people for accusing me of being close-minded or "unable to see outside the box", But I believe that God doesn't waver in his purposes for our life so why should I.
I believe that we live in a world full of bad things and we do the wrong thing all the time, it doesn't mean we should follow the theory "if everyone else is doing it, we should accept it" I believe that God created us to be heterosexual.

For the record, I have many homosexual friends and many friends who live with their other-sex parteners and some friends who have affairs, some who take drugs, some who are in jail. I would say that they're all not the way that God has designed life to be but I accept them as people, just not what they do/ have done.

The thing I'm not happy about is the government which was founded originally on God's laws, changing their minds all the time just because society has changed: taking God out of the schools for fear of parent's reaction to religion being "forced" on their kids.

By saying that I think that homosexuality is *bomm bomm bomm* sin, I also say that anyhting we do that contradicts what God wants is sin.

So in conclusion: I am apposed to homosexual marriage but I do not hate homosexuals or think they are less than us etc.

I hope you won't come o0ut and lynch me for my opinion

Thank you
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Nathor
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2004 06:20 pm
I just read what I wrote and realised something.

I just want to say that I do the wrong thing all the time, struggle with pornography, have even fantasised about other guys and other girls. I am currently struggling with my marriage and am in no way shape or form perfect.

That however doesn't change what I believe.

Thank you
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dauer
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2004 06:39 pm
I'm for gay marriage. It's not even an issue of whether it's a sin or not. I don't think it is. But it's not my place to make it difficult for two consensual adults to be together. That's wrong.

Well, this is a Christian country.

No different than Muslims imposing extra taxes and other penalties on non-Muslims.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2004 08:55 am
BCP,
You and your partner may be better protected by a limited partnership than by a marriage contract and standard ownership. Good luck!

I wish everyone here would realize what flawed institution marriage is but, more to the point, I wish they would realize that the history of marriage is being twisted and misrepresented by the right. Leaving gays and lesbians to marry IS government staying out of the bedroom.
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DreamInTheNight
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2004 11:23 am
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I wish they would realize that the history of marriage is being twisted and misrepresented by the right.


The primary purpose of marriage has been about family alliances, transferring property, and having heirs to continue the family bloodlines all throughout history. This has changed to some degree and extent to include love, but that concept is by no means universal. Arranged marriages are still very common in the world today, and trusting a person to make his/her own choices about love and marriage is seen as foolish by the parents.

I am all for gay marriage, but even if I was not, I do not think it is as catastrophic a topic as politicians make it out to be.
Let me clarify: I keep hearing politicians talking about how gays being allowed to marry will hurt families and result in the loss of families. I think (and I may be biased having a cousin who is career military) that the nearly 1k soldiers who are dying in the middle east currently is more likely to have an impact on me or my neighborhood or someone I know than if two women anywhere marry.

This country is a Christian country, but it is not a theocracy. It is supposed to be about freedom from persecution, "life-liberty-pursuit of happiness", etc. It is not suppose to condone racism, or sexism, or classism. Marriage carries a lot of civil benefits with it, and that is something very important to same-sex couples, especially in this age where companies do not like giving their employees health insurance.

I think society might actually become more stable and have a greater interest in "family values" (whatever those are) if it had more married couples in it.
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