Porn - degrading to women? or"the all you can eat salad bar"

What I consider degrading others don't.

This is why sometimes what I personally consider degrading will govern only my own actions and I will not attempt to declare it a moral absolute.

I don't think you should be able to determine who is "dysfunctional" and whose rights should be over-ruled.

. Personally, I think your objections are not simply sourced in health concerns.

David Henry, My example is quite real, and most sincere. Same principles entirely as far as I can tell.

If you still maintain that nosepicking is immoral, do you posit that it should be treated like murder?

So what!!...if we{rational people..unless Ted Bundy's views are as good as yours} aren't the arbiters of dysfunctional, then who is?

Despite your protests, you strike me as a moral relativist, IOW, you should take responsibility for your thoughts otherwise they have no value...just as thinking of murder as immoral is worthless if we don't act to prevent it, encourage the attitude and restrain offenders.

Then you haven't understood the notion of what a moral absolute is nor the subsequent actions required.

But my criteria is OBJECTIVE/intersubjective...and you and most others agree with it.

They are based on the spiritual concerns, ie, I don't like people engaging in degrading behaviour and don't want it encouraged via commercial sale.

My disgust is based both on the physical aspects and the spiritual aspects...it's not my fault YOU'VE decided that I look down upon these people and want to punish them because of some defect you assume I have.

So you also agree that it's disgusting, presumably by the same "objective" criteria I use, and yet you're not prepared{too scared} to declare it immoral aka wrong....curious, but typical of todays youth.

I'm not receiving pornospam featuring nose picking...so I'm not upset by it.
What is the disgusting aspect associated with picking your nose in private...A=nothing.
What is the disgusting aspect of AS2 in private or public, the spirtual decay and attempt to pass it off as just another behaviour amongst many.

Despite your protests, you strike me as a moral relativist....

But my criteria is OBJECTIVE/intersubjective...and you and most others agree with it.

They are based on the spiritual concerns, ie, I don't like people engaging in degrading behaviour and don't want it encouraged via commercial sale.

dlowan wrote:

"For or against faeces"!

That phrase delineates, with what appears to be deliberately satirical intent, the ridiculousness of David Henry's position on this, as nothing else could have!

You're pulling our collective legses, DH, aren't ya now??? C'mon, fess up!

So in your mind, I'm a morally upstanding citizen when I announce that I have no opinion on murder?

Serious question....would you allow me to A2M you?...if not, why not?

Being open minded doesn't include acts of obvious deviancy.

ehBeth wrote:

I should?

No problems....I now realize you're probably a bored housewife fantasizing that she has a clue.
Back to the chit-chat forums dear

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False. I have stated that I do not agree with the use of personal distaste as a criteria for what others should do.

But if my distaste is always subjective, what is the objective criteria one applies to this specific issue?

Your problem is that you think you can stand neutral in terms of action, and be in a morally defensible position.

Is Charles Manson the arbiter of right and wrong?..NO, thus rational people determine an objective criteria...IOW, you cannot dismiss my disgust as subjective if it conforms to an objective criteria....it's merely the objective assertion of a particular individual.

You've acknowledged that people other than me dislike this behaviour, but are too frightened to take the next logical step of it's total rejection from all rational countries.
The result of your confusion is in effect moral relavistism with a practical outcome of the commercial availability of this wholly degrading behaviour.

So you've admitted that you don't like the act, but you don't seem to want to reproach people for this behaviour and drop it from commercial sale.

Now when you learn to think productively, you can continue with your petty snipes boy.

My views aren't prejudiced, they're actually intersubjective, ie, most of you agree with it....what you don't agree with is the idea that I have the moral right to demand proscription....but this is based on your confusion and laziness, ie, just as there's no confusion over murder, there's also no delay in implementing the appropriate moral response.

Happy, Bear?