Porn - degrading to women? or"the all you can eat salad bar"

David Henry wrote:

ehBeth wrote:

I should?

No problems....I now realize you're probably a bored housewife fantasizing that she has a clue.
Back to the chit-chat forums dear

Oh boy. Feeling pretty desperate, aren't we? You know, I find that kind of (pseudo)-tactic pretty much as disgusting as you find A2M - only I do feel that intellectual coprophagy does more long-term harm than the other kind.

While A2M may as disgusting to many of us as drinking a glass of our own spit would be, there is no moral reason why material from the bottom end of the digestive system cannot be recycled. If it was good enough to eat the first time … :wink:

joefromchicago wrote:

Piffka wrote:

But who is to say how many porn "artists" don't feel forced or coerced?

The porn artists themselves.

I agree with you very much. Projecting one's own feelings about degradation on others isn't something I condone.

But I also want to bring up what's called "Linda Syndrome", where they, due to the shame from society, simply lie to distance themselves from a career they'd enthusiastically embraced.

"Linda Lovelace" in trying to disavow her career started to claim she had had a gun to her head the whole time. It was a load of bull and gave birth to a lot of the arguments about 'unwitting' physical coercion.

Joeblow: It's all very simple:
You can pick your friends
And you can pick your nose
But you can't pick your friend's nose.

Here is a case of someone saying that they didn't like their role in pornography and it is called "Linda's Syndrome"? <shaking head>

Piffka wrote:

My attitude does not come from any moral absolute, nor is it based on what you refer to as extremist feminism. It is based on my preferences for entertainment. It is a simple simple enough concept -- I am not entertained by watching someone else having sex.

Whereas others find it very entertaining indeed. Are you willing, then, to dictate what they may view, based upon nothing more than your own personal preference?

Ahhh, from my saying I dislike pornography to saying I advocate censorship -- you make that leap? Did I say anything about censorship?

I made one point, that there is a big spectrum that includes pornography, which I find degrading to both women and men... and moves all the way into the sexual degradation that was found in Iraqi prisons.

Only troops already innured to pornography would willingly force those prisoners into what are being called sexually degrading poses.

My pointing out that there is a disconnect between this and people advocating for pornography resulted in a lot of flaming... sentence by sentence, point by point. People who cannot see that disconnect are, to me, unwilling to consider that their own moral fabric is slightly unravelled.

That doesn't mean I am a puritan, a prude, a censor or stupid. It means I know what I like.I don't like pornography the way I don't like violence on film. I think it jades the watchers and dulls their sensitivity.

People who cannot see that disconnect are, to me, unwilling to consider that their own moral fabric is slightly unravelled.

Terry wrote:

While A2M may as disgusting to many of us as drinking a glass of our own spit would be, there is no moral reason why material from the bottom end of the digestive system cannot be recycled. If it was good enough to eat the first time ? :wink:

Terry,

Are you referencing the study in which a sterilized glass was filled with a the people's saliva and they refused to drink it (showing a seemingly inherent aversion to saliva?

Cause if so, it's an interesting coincidence. I'd thought of that in reference to this thread the other day.