Porn - degrading to women? or"the all you can eat salad bar"

Porn is degrading and ...sorry.... kinky

My only concern is the pretense that certain activities are desirable, eg, eating semen or what is known as Ass to mouthA2M{I hope I don't have to explain}.

Does anyone here really think there's nothing wrong with A2M?
Would you encourage your daughters or partners to do it?...I know I wouldn't and wouldn't participate in that sort of thing.

IOW, pornography is OK, but certain acts are disturbing and if genuinely "liked" by the actors would be the result of psychological drives, rather than biological ones, ie, sex is a biological drive, whereas sampling your own anal juices isn't....all clear?

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When did you become the arbiter of what is genuinely "desirable?"

Whether that somebody is psychologicall disturbed is, I think, quite another matter.

Chacun a son gout

Certainly, sex is a biological drive. But if biology alone decided whether a particular practice was aberrant, then all non-procreative sex would be aberrant. And, frankly, some of the best sex is non-procreative

Whenever I choose, just as you do, although unlike you, I'm trying to establish an objective criteria for human activities, in this instance it happens to be WRT pornography.

If you happen to be a moral relativist, then presumably anything goes...

I'm not, I think reason can establish certain boundaries and place limits within categories for acceptable behaviour, ie, sex is the category, and this is acceptable, but behaviours that have no real satisfactory explanation other than acts of self-degradation should be rejected as worthy of moral support and IMO should be banned* from normal commercial channels of sale.
*nothing can stop people performing whatever manner of debauchery they choose behind closed doors, but I think beasiality and other sickening behaviours should be banned from sale.

Furthermore we try and distinguish between pathological drives and meaningful/productive drives....and for the life of me I can't see how it's meaningful to perform A2M.

I hold the view that Eric Fromm holds, which is that we use reason to establish morality, and that whilst the outcome of our reasoning can be upgraded, a massive departure from reason based assessments "might" represent a pathological mentality, rather than an elightened individual.

Society should adjust to mans needs{defined by reason} rather than man adjust to the various themes/activities which individuals who comprise society engage in.

So you don't have an opinion yet??....WOW, I'm shocked, as you seem to be rather bright judging by your commentary in many other threads, so I'm forced to conclude there must be another reason why you're on the fence.

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Chacun a son gout

No comprehendo...!!

Biology is rather important here, as we know that the colon contains waste products, and is to be expelled accordingly, it's not supposed to be tasted or eaten, that's why it stinks and looks fairly ordinary.

I do not consider myself to be a moral relativist

How much more meaningful/productive is oral sex? Or is that also on the list of proscribed activities?

Well, I'm not quite sure I understand you here. Society and individuals continually adjust to each other, in an iterative process. If individuals -- who comprise society -- only adjusted to society, then there would be no mechanism for change.

I offer no opinion because: (1) this thread is about pornography, not about aberrant psychology;

Whatever floats your boat.

And a mouth is full of sharp, pointy teeth. That fact, however, does not deter people from putting things in their mouths that, biologically speaking, have no business being there.

tooo weird, the only criteria I can think of is "if both (or more) people enjoy what they are doing it's good sex.

dyslexia wrote:

tooo weird, the only criteria I can think of is "if both (or more) people enjoy what they are doing it's good sex.

I forget the names{Mira Lindy and someone} enjoyed what they described as ritualistic homicidal marriage....is that practice ok just because those people enjoyed it?