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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Sat 13 Oct, 2018 05:02 am
@OldGrumpy,
Ill bet you think that "instant replay" is an entirely new touchdown eh?
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rosborne979
 
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Sat 13 Oct, 2018 06:36 am
@farmerman,
Do I understand correctly, you found a half mile of fossilized tracks of a creature with a crooked claw?

I wasn’t aware there were any fossil track sites that long or well preserved. That’s amazing. How did you get involved in that?
Olivier5
 
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Sat 13 Oct, 2018 07:12 am
@farmerman,
Ah sorry, i got confused with my pods. Thought of some early tetrapods.
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farmerman
 
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Sat 13 Oct, 2018 09:17 am
@rosborne979,
theres a series of state field studies involving Triassic rocks. The hald mile track wasnt in one outcrop, it was separated by a housing development and a strip mall but the " bent toe chickenosaurus' stretched a total distance over an even larger distance. Bent toe was another unique way of correlating between the missing segments of the strata between outcrops along strike.
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brianjakub
 
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Sun 14 Oct, 2018 07:37 pm
@Olivier5,
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The question is: who designed and manufactured your designer and manufacturer? And who designed the designer of your designer?

If all complex entities need a designer, then it's "designers all the way down."

https://able2know.org/topic/320763-29#post-6728278

https://able2know.org/topic/320763-29#post-6728902

There is nothing simpler than a one particle universe with a single intelligence that has the intelligence understanding and ability to create a universe out of that particle.

Intelligence= God the Father
Ability = Jesus Christ the Living Word or the ability to make and store information the intelligence created.
Holy Spirit = The ability to understand the information.

The Christian God (the Alpha and the Omega) appears to have these characteristics, don't you think?

MontereyJack
 
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Sun 14 Oct, 2018 08:58 pm
@brianjakub,
that is sheer twaddle.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 04:53 am
@brianjakub,
Okay so who designed Jesus and God?
farmerman
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 05:00 am
@MontereyJack,
He seems to be developing a special language spoken by him alone.
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brianjakub
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 05:32 pm
@Olivier5,
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Okay so who designed Jesus and God?


If the universe existed as a single particle with no order to it. (a singularity) as the Big Bang theory suggests, then all that existed was a single particle that was quite dense containing everything necessary for our universe to exist except order.

If the only thing that physically existed, at this time, is this singularity contained in one perfect universe wide particle (which must be objectively perfect because it is the only physical thing with nothing to compare it to). And, the intelligence to manipulate it (God), exists in this one simple perfect particle, then this means that the creator of the universe must be the simplest thing.

And, since this single particle contains the entire universe and is controlled by a single simple intelligence that makes that intelligence simple and Omnipotent.


So, if you run the clock backwards when you get to the simplest thing possible (one universe with no boundaries) that has to be the point of creation. And at that point there can be only one decision to make (should I create a universe or not?

Who ever made that intelligent decision is the creator of this universe.

If this is the only universe then that is the one Omnipotent God.

That intelligence is not physical in existence because ideas aren't physical till they are presented as information in a physical universe. https://able2know.org/topic/384507-16#post-6718326

Since the intelligence (God) is not physical and nothing is yet created in the universe to measure time, that intelligence would not need a physical beginning (always was and always will be). Because His idea would initiate the physical beginning of the universe with His first idea, "I will create a physical universe by storing ideas in spinning particles".

Where am I wrong in my logic?
brianjakub
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 05:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
You create like God.

You think of an idea.

Change it into words.

Store the information in matter.

If I understand the spirit of your information that you present in the information stored in your creation, I will use it correctly. (if you built a doghouse I put a dog in it and not a child for instance).
Setanta
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 05:37 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:
Where am I wrong in my logic?


Everywhere
Setanta
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 06:28 pm
@brianjakub,
brianjakub wrote:
You create like God.


This is the witless assumption of a primitive mind--that because humans create things, the cosmos itself must have been created. It shows a distinct lack of imagination. It also shows a child's fear of being alone.
livinglava
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 06:32 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

This is the witless assumption of a primitive mind--that because humans create things, the cosmos itself must have been created. It shows a distinct lack of imagination. It also shows a child's fear of being alone.

It's a way of deconstructing the distinction between intentional and unintentional action. In reality, causation happens like clockwork and the semblance of intentionality is just an emergent phenomena caused by all the mechanistic subatomic interactions that constitute the brain.

So in the same sense that a complex system of ions and electrons generates human creativity, the complex system of particles and energies that make up the universe can generate divine creativity.
brianjakub
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 07:48 pm
@Setanta,
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Everywhere


Well you are wrong.

But if you could explain? With a couple of examples maybe. . .
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Setanta
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 09:19 pm
You two crack me up--although I've got to admit that she's better at the phony science babble than you are BJ.
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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 10:37 pm
@livinglava,
migawd, livinglava can really sling the meaningless word salad, can't he?
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OldGrumpy
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 11:23 pm
@livinglava,
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So in the same sense that a complex system of ions and electrons generates human creativity


lol, that is the most blatant non-sense I have heard in weeks!

a complex system of ions and electrons generate hunan creativity?????????

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

oh well ok
OldGrumpy
 
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Mon 15 Oct, 2018 11:25 pm
How does biology/evil-lotion explain this:

After any war there are more men born then woman, how does this work?

what or who counts???? how does this 'mechanism' work?

According to evil-lotion and statistics the changes would be the same that is
50%, but it isn't!

I am, sure there will be someone within the 'evil-lotion' community with a stupid
rationalisation.

farmerman
 
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Tue 16 Oct, 2018 04:10 am
@OldGrumpy,
didnt know that happened. Its really not an unusual concept. As a sheep farmer of about 30 years, we "flush" our ewes by keping them lean during the summer by keeping them on pasture alone, then in early Fall we begin flushing by gradually increasing their carb and high oprotein intake (Grains nd alfalfa). We do this about a month and then send in the rams. The fushing increases the likelihood of multiple eggs dropping and increasing the twin lamb stats. Also we often introduce the stud rams in early AM (like 3 AM) This favors for female lambs when they are bred. We usually have a ram in with about 25 ewes at a time, then we hange the rams, nd note on the ir records the twin% and sex of the various batches of lambs born 144 days later.

There are many circadian effects that are stimulated when environmental changes occur in livestock and social animals. Im sure theres some similar reason that takes over in humans,(if what you say is true or is not just some internet alternative truth).

We have at least two veterinarians on the line, Im sure they have a better answer than mine but I dont think (were I you) Id rise to the level of incredulity when something puzzles me. Youll start believing the internet.
OldGrumpy
 
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Tue 16 Oct, 2018 04:33 am
@farmerman,
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if what you say is true or is not just some internet alternative truth


( btw 'alternative truths' aren't wrong by default of course, that is just plain stupid.)

Anyway:

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Scientists have known for a long time that more boys than usual are born during and after major wars. The phenomenon was first noticed in 1954 with regard to white children born during World War II in the United States. It has since been replicated for most of the belligerent nations in both World Wars. The phenomenon has been dubbed the “returning soldier effect.” There is no doubt that the phenomenon is real, but nobody has been able to explain it.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200802/the-returning-soldier-effect-i-why-are-more-boys-born


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The Ratio of Male to Female Births as Affected by Wars




https://www.jstor.org/stable/2277532?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents



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A curious shift occurs during and right after a war: more boys tend to be born than girls. It's been documented for decades in many nations, especially during long conflicts with many troops deployed. The cause of this boy boom has long flummoxed thinkers and scientists. Ideas have veered from the theological—a divine call for new men to replace those lost in battle—to the coital—returning soldiers have lots of sex, and so will be more likely to fertilize at a time in their ladies' cycle that's ripe for making boy babies.


https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-12/why-does-war-breed-more-boys
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