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Where are the Conservative voices?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 09:34 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
I looked through that thread and I don't see it.

It looks like the incident you are referring to
is where Cicerone Imposter is referring to you, as an individual, as white trash
Thanks for your efforts, Max,
which did not prove to be fully successful in
implimenting your un-doubted ability to read English.
My name is not Bill,
who was the victim of C. I.'s bigotted rant,
accusing him of being: "white trash".

In an effort to vindicate the hapless, defamed Bill,
I inquired of C. I. as to whether Bill shud bring out the point
that C. I. is Jap trash. That is the fullness of the exchanges in question.


maxdancona wrote:
because you, as an individual are behaving badly. [???]
Really?? HOW??




maxdancona wrote:
There is a big difference to calling names to an individual
because of specific behavior and defaming an entire religious or ethnic group.
U have posted in this thread about
someone calling someone a nigger; remember that?? U disapproved.
Do u need me to help u FIND it?
How is it different in principle to call someone white trash,
which u now inform us is OK with u, as distinct from calling someone a nigger??

Please explain, for our elucidation! We await your sage advice.






maxdancona wrote:
I don't see any place that anyone is calling White people intrinsically violent and barbaric.
I don't see anyplace that White people are being associated with rape or necrophilia.
That is not the subject matter of the complaint at issue.
(See above.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 09:36 am
@OmSigDAVID,
BillRM is an individual, and a particularly repulsive one at that. Calling him trash is an insult to landfill.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 09:41 am
@izzythepush,
We can turn it around the other way,
regarding C. I. being Jap trash.
I raised a question about that.
He did not choose to reply.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 09:44 am
@OmSigDAVID,
CI is a nice bloke, there's no need to bring his ethnicity into it. BillRM clearly is a racist and deserves all he gets. CI has never taken issue with me over my nationality.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 11:37 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
CI is a nice bloke, there's no need to bring his ethnicity into it.
O, yeah, thay were NICE for sure
on the Bataan Death March, the 1937 Rape of Nanking,
the hell ships! Ya gotta give them credit, especially on Pearl Harbor Day!
In this forum, C. I. is close to 1OO% ` ad hominem rancor in the bulk of his posts.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 11:56 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
C. I. is close to 1OO% ` ad hominem rancor in the bulk of his posts.
yep, and he gos on and on about the internment of some of the Japs in WW2.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 12:31 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
That's got absolutely nothing to do with CI. His family were unjustly interned. They were more like these guys.
Quote:
The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was an all-Nisei U.S. Army regiment which served in Europe during World War II. The 442nd arrived in Europe after the 100th Infantry battalion had already established its reputation as a fighting unit. In time, the 442nd became, for its size and length of service, the most decorated unit in U.S. military history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-American_service_in_World_War_II

You carry on like that and the next 4 pages will be taken up by JTT.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 01:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
he gos on and on about the internment of some of the Japs in WW2.
Indeed. Only 127,000 United States citizens were imprisoned during World War II for the of having some Japanese ancestry.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 01:24 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

That's got absolutely nothing to do with CI.
His family were unjustly interned. They were more like these guys.
Quote:
The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was an all-Nisei U.S. Army regiment which served in Europe during World War II. The 442nd arrived in Europe after the 100th Infantry battalion had already established its reputation as a fighting unit. In time, the 442nd became, for its size and length of service, the most decorated unit in U.S. military history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-American_service_in_World_War_II
U KNOW his family??

C. I. is an authoritarian.
It offends him when we advocate personal freedom;
then he goes ad hominem on us. He does that a lot.




izzythepush wrote:
You carry on like that and the next 4 pages will be taken up by JTT.
Those of us who keep JTT in the A2K dungeon are immune to that.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 02:33 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
No you're not, you get page after page of user ignored and some people responding to that you've ignored.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 04:42 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
No you're not, you get page after page of user ignored
and some people responding to that you've ignored.
Yes.
When people exhibit what he has said,
then it becomes visible as a nested quote, despite being Ignored.
To tell u the truth, I had JTT on Ignore for quite a long time.
Then someone exhibited one of his posts. I relented and took JTT off Ignore
for a few hours, but then he behaved like a reasonable human being. He was decent, believe it or not.
I had no basis to hurl him back in.
About a year or 2 later maybe, I saw him being grossly, obscenely abusive to another poster,
(disgusting) such that I hurled him back into Ignore
, where he remains.





David
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 10:27 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
I looked through that thread and I don't see it.

It looks like the incident you are referring to is where Cicerone Imposter is referring to you, as an individual, as white trash because you, as an individual are behaving badly.

There is a big difference to calling names to an individual because of specific behavior and defaming an entire religious or ethnic group.

I don't see any place that anyone is calling White people intrinsically violent and barbaric. I don't see anyplace that White people are being associated with rape or necrophilia.

This comparison is ridiculous (and I say that as a White person)

The false equivalency you are setting up is ridiculous. There is no one who is defaming white people the way you guys are defaming Mulsims.


First, let's get our facts straight. No one is defaming Muslims. You made up a bunch of false accusations against innocent people, but there has been no actual defamation of Muslims.

And the reason that C.I. was using racist epithets is because C.I. was behaving badly, not because of any supposed bad behavior on anyone else's part.


That taken care of, it is always amusing to see how the discog works when a Liberal starts openly supporting racism.

So the essence of your position is that if a racist epithet is used against an individual, then it does not count as a racist epithet?

How charming.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 9 Dec, 2013 11:01 pm
Quote:
It looks like the incident you are referring to is where Cicerone Imposter is referring to you, as an individual, as white trash because you, as an individual are behaving badly.


Now Max knows who is behaving badly. Maybe he is Santa. Be careful out there!
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:12 am
@panzade,
panzade wrote:
I'm dismayed that you try to equate these two slurs, but I'm equally certain that no conservative here will take you to task for it....therefore proving Max's point.

First, I realize that you and OmSigDAVID were discussing the use of the term, as opposed to actually using it, but is it possible for everyone to please stop reprinting that horrible word already?

Second, I agree with you that the term that certain racists use against African Americans is much more painful than other racist epithets, because it not only alleges (wrongly) inferiority in the same manner that all racist epithets do, it also has a long history of atrocious abuse based on that wrongful allegation of inferiority.

However, the fact that other racist epithets do not have that long history of abuse behind them does not change the reality that they are still completely unacceptable.

As for whatever Max's point was supposed to be, it is completely invalidated by the fact that it is based entirely on outrageous false accusations against innocent people.
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 10:12 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Second, I agree with you that the term that certain racists use against African Americans is much more painful than other racist epithets, because it not only alleges (wrongly) inferiority in the same manner that all racist epithets do, it also has a long history of atrocious abuse based on that wrongful allegation of inferiority.

Well there you go...you've just disproved Max's point
 

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