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Where are the Conservative voices?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 10:26 am
@panzade,
Quote:
Second, I agree with you that the term that certain racists use against African Americans is much more painful than other racist epithets, because it not only alleges (wrongly) inferiority in the same manner that all racist epithets do, it also has a long history of atrocious abuse based on that wrongful allegation of inferiority.
panzade wrote:
Well there you go...you've just disproved Max's point
Freedom of the expression of human thought and belief
shud not depend upon a popularity contest. That is the innermost essence of American freedom.

I refuse to support the heckler 's veto.





David
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IRFRANK
 
  1  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 02:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
When you have Jim DeMint leading a "think tank" that's all that needs to be said. From think tank: 'How to answer any question, NO".
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 02:54 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
@raprap,
Quote:
Apparently the money spent by conservative 'think tanks' just proves that right wing "intelligentsia' isn't.


Your repeating of that lie has idiots not much brighter than you believing it.
Left wing think tanks are recycled Communism and Socialist ideas reworded to fool even their own members and way to many voters.



Your comments here only prove his point.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:08 pm
@IRFRANK,
IRFRANK wrote:
When you have Jim DeMint leading a "think tank" that's all that needs to be said.
From think tank: 'How to answer any question, NO".
I guess that 's Frank's idea of *humor.*
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 03:41 pm
@IRFRANK,
Quote:
When you have Jim DeMint leading a "think tank


I am sure you would rather Van Jones was doing the thinking.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 05:10 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

There is no one who is defaming white people the way you guys are defaming Mulsims.


And herein lies the rub...

I have found no example of David "defaming" Muslims in this thread. Not one, and yet you have lumped him into your bogeyman gang of "you guys."

Who are these "guys," and how have they defamed Muslims?

Since you are making a tough case against "these guys," it only seems fair that you might have the stones to confront them with what they have written in this forum.

You started this thread with the premise that this forum is rife with bigoted defamation of Muslims and that anyone calling themselves a "conservative" should join you in condemning the growing filth.

OK, so where is it?

Maybe we conservatives have missed it and would benefit from you pointing it out.



izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 05:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
David has talked about bombing Mecca right after 9/11. I'm sure he won't mind confirming it.

coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 08:07 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
David has talked about bombing Mecca right after 9/11


David agrees with the Golden Rule, Islam does not.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 08:21 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
David has talked about bombing Mecca right after 9/11.
I'm sure he won't mind confirming it.
Yes; I talked about it.
I believe that threatening the Moslems
with that is and was a good idea.
That is not to say that if I were in command,
that I 'd have launched a nuclear attack on Mecca on 9/12/1,
but I deem it to be a good stratagem to remind the Moslems
that we know where thay live, particularly in vu of the fact
that theirs is a geografically-based religion.

On 9/11/1, thay did not nuke us for ONE (count it: 1) reason, to wit:
it was IMPOSSIBLE. On the first day that the Moslems CAN nuke us,
we will get nuked (maybe a dirty chemical-based bom),
unless we provide them with a sufficient dis-incentive,
like retributively nuking Mecca.





David
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raprap
 
  3  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 08:27 pm
@coldjoint,
Interesting Phrasing of the Golden Rule from the Koran

Quote:
لَا يُؤْمِنُ أَحَدُكُمْ حَتَّى يُحِبَّ لِأَخِيهِ أَوْ قَالَ لِجَارِهِ مَا يُحِبُّ لِنَفْسِهِ

None of you has faith until he loves for his brother or his neighbor what he loves for himself.

Source: Sahih Bukhari 13; Sahih Muslim 45, Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi


It isn't unique to Christianity, or the religions of Moses--actually the 'Golden Rule" is the central tenet of Jainism.

Rap
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 08:42 pm
@raprap,
Quote:
It isn't unique to Christianity, or the religions of Moses--actually the 'Golden Rule" is the central tenet of Jainism.


Yes it is unique, uniquely left out of Islam. Read some more and find that verse only applies to Muslims. Excluding non-Muslims makes it meaningless.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 08:43 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
BillRM is an individual, and a particularly repulsive one at that.
Calling him trash is an insult to landfill.
When first I met Bill in this forum,
as always, I argued against authoritarianism, and he supported liberalism.
Because of his syntax, I deemed him to be stupid, for quite a long time.
He subsequently began to argue in support of freedom and he proved
to be a resourceful reseacher and to formulate some good arguments.
It came out in discussion that he is educated in mathematics
and in engineering, far beyond my knowledge thereof (which is not much).

Accordingly, I realized that I had mis-judged Bill because of his
defective syntax, but that substantively, I find him to be pretty good
in some matters, not everything. As I 've told u, I remain neutral
qua the dispute between Moslems and Jews in the Mid East,
tho my vu of the Moslems took a dive in Sept. of 2001.

I surmise that u and Bill are on opposite sides of the Mid East
disputes, tho I have not read any posts manifesting such strife.

In real life, tho I crave and support severely crippled government,
to the aggrandizement of the Individual citizen in the glory of his liberty,
I have had friends who are monsters of authoritarianism,
including commies, Roosevelt-Kennedy liberals and nazis.
We get along.





David
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raprap
 
  3  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:01 pm
@coldjoint,
And I have heard Christians, quoting the King James Bible, arguing that the Golden Rule only applies to other Christians.

By your twisted logic, I guess that too would make it meaningless.

Rap
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:10 pm
@raprap,
Quote:
By your twisted logic,


There is no twisted logic in what I said. Islam has separate laws for non-Muslims, and makes it very clear.
raprap
 
  2  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:22 pm
@coldjoint,
Twisted religious bigots, like you, must hate the US Constitution--The freedom of religion must really get in your craw.

Rap
OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:32 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
CI is a nice bloke, there's no need to bring his ethnicity into it.
I know that he is very sensitive about his Jap heritage.
Accordingly, I used it retributively against him
when he racially insulted Bill, calling him white trash on Pearl Harbor Day.
There is no "need" to bring his ethnicity into it,
but it was convenient and advantageous and vindictively fair and fun.
C. I. was not likely expecting that counter-punch when he racially insulted Bill.



izzythepush wrote:
BillRM clearly is a racist and deserves all he gets.
CI has never taken issue with me over my nationality.
For most of my life, America has been filled with racists in every direction.
That 's nothing new. I respect everyone 's right to his own opinion.
I know not whether Bill is a racist; that 's none of my business. I don t care.
I don't even care if he is against MY race.
My dead friend, Neil Callahan, was an Irishman with some anti-English sentiments,
knowing my English heritage; we were very good friends
for years, until his most recent death in the 1980s.
Everyone has as much right to his opinion as anyone else.
No one has to please liberals in their beliefs.

C. I. expressed himself as a racist (I don 't begrudge him that)
calling Bill white trash. I brought up his own heritage on Pearl Harbor Day. That was fair.

I support robust free speech and if the liberals don t like it, let us make the most of it.


Do u consider yourself to be anti-authoritarian?
If u argue for freedom, against government jurisdiction,
then he will begin his ad hominem attacks on u,
but not if u support his anti-freedom position.





David
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:34 pm
@raprap,
Quote:
Twisted religious bigots, like you


I am not a bigot. There are very valid concerns about Islam that have zero to do with bigotry . You are a twisted loser with a small and narrow mind.
raprap
 
  3  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:38 pm
@coldjoint,
Too bad that your own words betray you.

Rap

OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:40 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Twisted religious bigots, like you


I am not a bigot. There are very valid concerns about Islam
that have zero to do with bigotry . You are a twisted loser with a small and narrow mind.
I, for one, don t care about anyone 's religion,
but I care about it when thay blow up our stuff.





David
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 10 Dec, 2013 09:48 pm
@raprap,
Quote:
Too bad that your own words betray you.


Show me those words. Or shut the **** up.
 

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