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Where are the Conservative voices?

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 01:58 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
There's a world of difference between attacking an individual and attacking a significant part of the world's population.

If anyone wants to go and **** in Sarah Palin's mouth I'm not going to stop them, it would make a change, the **** normally comes out of her mouth.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:05 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
There's a world of difference between attacking an individual and attacking a significant part of the world's population.


Even when a significant part of that population support terror? You are a special kind of stupid.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:21 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Even when a significant part of that population support terror? You are a special kind of stupid.
I mean, you really don't know whose behind that burka and what is in that pram ...

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:22 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
... but it certainly isn't something bad what the Ultra-Orthodox woman is doing there in Mosley/New York.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:24 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
.
Quote:
.. but it certainly isn't something bad what the Ultra-Orthodox woman is doing there in Mosley/New York.


Who has she killed or supported killing? That is the difference, Wally.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I mean, you really don't know whose behind that burka and what is in that pram ...

"The bomb in the baby carriage was wired to the radio."
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:50 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

No, I am not saying that. I am saying that vile defamation of a religous or ethnic group is wrong, no matter who is the target.

If you accuse Jews of being an ethnic group prone violence and rape, then it is wrong.
If you accuse Christians of being a religion prone to violence and rape, then it is wrong.
If you you say that Jews should be kept out of the country only because they are Jewish, then it is wrong.

The nature of the bigoted defamatory attacks on a religious or ethnic group is wrong. That is true with any religious or ethnic group.

Bigoted attacks against ethnic groups (be they Jews, Christians or Muslims) are destructive to our society and harmful to people targeted. They are not related in any way to the silly political sniping you are suggesting.

Right now, these bigoted attacks against Muslims are somehow more acceptable than attacks against any other religion.

Take ColdJoint's posts and replace the word Muslim with the word Jew. Then ask yourself if any community would (or should) accept these slurs.
What is Max 's SPECIFIC definition of a bigoted attack,
as distinct from an attack that is non-bigoted??
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 02:56 pm
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

"The bomb in the baby carriage was wired to the radio."
'God created women gentle'
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

"The bomb in the baby carriage was wired to the radio."
'God created women gentle'
I guess that if thay wanted to,
thay cud build boms too.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:25 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
No, I am not saying that. I am saying that vile defamation of a religous or ethnic group is wrong, no matter who is the target.

So when I call Muhammed a child-******, that's not cool to you?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:44 pm
Max wrote:
Where are the Conservative voices?
I remain super-skeptical that defense of Orthodox Original Americanism
requires censorship, prior-restraint of opinion; un-likely.

Does evidence exist, Max,
that the Founders of the Republic believed
that we are supposed to shut up, to stifle ourselves,
unless we adopt your philosophy??

Will u cite us to such evidence, if u believe that it exists??





David
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 03:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
'God created women gentle'


According to this stupid too.
Quote:
Bukhari:V3B48N826 "The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'"
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 06:40 pm
@coldjoint,
How interesting. Coldjoint gets a "thumb down" for quoting and thereby exposing an undeniably sexist statement. (By the way, the women in my immediate life -- namely, my wife and our two daughters -- are extremely intelligent and have done far better than I did academically when I was young.) I guess whether or not one becomes offended by sexist statements is contingent upon the fact of who makes such statements. Ah, ain't politics grand?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 07:50 pm
@wmwcjr,
Quote:
How interesting. Coldjoint gets a "thumb down"


For everything I post. I think they are afraid to get past the name calling and discuss facts.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 08:03 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

So since you haven't said anything, can we assume then that you agree with the MSNBC commentator that suggested that someone should s@#t in Sarah Palins mouth?


I'm no Sarah Palin fan, but I think liberals should refrain from talking about doing vulgar, degrading things like that to a woman. Even hearing Bachmann and Palin called ditzes bothers me almost as much hearing Hillary called a bitch.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 09:32 pm
@Kolyo,
I agree, Kolyo.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 5 Dec, 2013 09:46 pm
@Kolyo,
I also agree. But I still think it is a false equivalence.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 6 Dec, 2013 12:20 am
@Kolyo,
mysteryman wrote:

So since you haven't said anything, can we assume then that you agree with the MSNBC commentator that suggested that someone should s@#t in Sarah Palins mouth?
Kolyo wrote:
I'm no Sarah Palin fan, but I think liberals should refrain from talking about doing vulgar, degrading things like that to a woman. Even hearing Bachmann and Palin called ditzes bothers me almost as much hearing Hillary called a bitch.
I wish that Hillary had better respect for a citizen's personal freedom,
but I 'd never impute canine heritage to her.

In another century, my cousin Norma's husband
got mad at their teenage boy. He told Norma
that their boy was a "son of a bitch".
Someone asked him:
"if he 's a 'son of a bitch' then where does that leave Norma?"
to whom he had been addressing his complaints about the "son of a bitch".





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 6 Dec, 2013 12:33 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
How interesting. Coldjoint gets a "thumb down"
coldjoint wrote:
For everything I post. I think they are afraid to get past the name calling and discuss facts.
For too many of the posters in this forum,
ad hominem name calling is the maximum of their intellectual ability.
gungasnake
 
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