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Does anti-Muslim bigotry correlate with Tea Party association?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2013 11:17 am
@maxdancona,
Well, there are only about 27 elevator deaths annually in the USA - champagne cork death might be a bit lower.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2013 01:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, there are only about 27 elevator deaths annually in the USA -
champagne cork death might be a bit lower.
There have been eye injuries from those corks.
Many of them r un-registered and their owners have no licenses from the police.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2013 02:08 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
Muslim is a religion. Al Qaeda are extremists. I have no problem with you saying that Al Qaeda is a terrorist group. I object to you smearing all Muslims with that label.

GOP is a political party. The Tea Party are extremists. I have never said that all Republicans are extremists. I admit that smearing a Republican (who is not a Tea Party member) with the Tea Party label is a pretty awful thing to do.
As a life-long Republican who worked for Ike 's, Goldwater's, Nixon's and Reagan's
election campaigns, I take exception to that remark.
Do u allege that we shud be R.I.N.O.s, only ??

The Tea Party (invoking the memory of the Sons of Liberty 's
participation in the Boston Tea Party in 1773)
is intended to manifest the innermost essence of Original Americanism.
Accordingly, it shud be fiercely anti-authoritarian and it shud favor Individualism.
(If someone does NOT approve of Individual freedom [e.g. Karl Marx] then I cant
understand any reason for him to support the GOP, in any degree.)

Will u reveal how it is "smearing" to attribute those principles of liberty to Republicans?
I 'd like to know that, Max.





David
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 10:18 am
@OmSigDAVID,
This is nonsense. The people in the Tea Party don't have a clue about liberty.

How do people appealing to liberty oppose the rights of Americans to marry, get an abortion, or to worship in a mosque?

To the Tea Party, liberty is just an empty slogan.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 11:09 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
This is nonsense. The people in the Tea Party don't have a clue about liberty.
The WHOLE IDEA is liberty.





maxdancona wrote:
How do people appealing to liberty oppose the rights of Americans to marry,
get an abortion, or to worship in a mosque?
I was neutral qua homosexual marriage for a long time, for lack of interest.
Slowly, I came to a purely libertarian point of vu about it,
because thay have told us so fervently of how intensely thay crave
our recognition of their marriages. I wish them good luck; I bear them good will.
Thay r not hurting anything. I first considered the merits of freedom of abortion when I was 13.
From then to now, I have been fierce in my opposition to any government jurisdiction subverting
the defensive freedom of a girl against an intrusive parasite. I 've never been shy about saying so.
In my vu, a girl has a BETTER right to have a defensive abortion than she has to get a haircut.
I dont care about the Moslems' religious habits,
so long as thay STOP blowing up American stuff.



maxdancona wrote:
To the Tea Party, liberty is just an empty slogan.
If that were true, then there 'd be NO motivation to do anything politically.

We work for freedom; that 's Y we fight against liberalism,
to restore Orthodox Original Americanism (as amended per Article 5).





David
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 11:25 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I came to a purely libertarian point of vu about it,
because thay have told us so fervently of how intensely thay crave
our recognition of their marriages. I wish them good luck; I bear them good will.
Thay r not hurting anything. I first considered the merits of freedom of abortion when I was 13.
From then to now, I have been fierce in my opposition to any government jurisdiction subverting
the defensive freedom of a girl against an intrusive parasite. I 've never been shy about saying so.
In my vu, a girl has a BETTER right to have a defensive abortion than she has to get a haircut.
I dont care about the Moslems' religious habits,
so long as thay STOP blowing up American stuff.


All of your views here contradict the views of the Tea Party.

You are credible when you say you believe in liberty. Your stated beliefs are consistent with liberty.

The views of the Tea Party (which regulates marriage, wants to outlaw abortion and mandate invasive procedures on women and oppose any practice of Islam) are opposed to the prinicples of liberty that you and I agree on.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 05:43 pm
@maxdancona,
This was not a Tea Party stance several years ago. It stared to seep in after the 2010 elections and the old guard GOP knew they had to adjust. Sure they adjusted alright, and went right back to the same old crap a lot of the Tea Party people were trying to get away from. It was never about social issues, we left those behind with the GOP, they dragged them back in. Because of that, many people such as myself have left the Republican party.
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 05:54 pm
tea party is in the last 15 of it's time. They are the scum of the Earth. Period. Nothing they say matters
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 06:37 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
This was not a Tea Party stance several years ago. It stared to seep in after the 2010 elections and the old guard GOP knew they had to adjust. Sure they adjusted alright, and went right back to the same old crap a lot of the Tea Party people were trying to get away from. It was never about social issues, we left those behind with the GOP, they dragged them back in. Because of that,

many people such as myself have left the Republican party.
In favor of WHAT ?

Is there a viable alternative??
That is to say: another pro-freedom, anti-authoritarian party
with a decent chance of WINNING an election?

Please advise.

The only strategy that is apparent to me
is to replicate what Barry Goldwater did;
i.e., pull the GOP as far to the right (i.e., in an anti-authoritarian direction)
and campaign for freedom, to weaken n enfeeble government jurisdiction.
Goldwater 's campaign never got a fair chance;
it was assassinated by Lee H. Oswald.

I wanna live in an America that is FULL and brimming over with PERSONAL FREEDOM
as the jurisdiction of government progressively withers n shrinks to 1890s levels; maybe like Mayberry, N.C.



David
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 06:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I switched my party affiliation to Libertarian.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 07:15 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
This is nonsense. The people in the Tea Party don't have a clue about liberty.

How do people appealing to liberty oppose the rights of Americans to marry,
get an abortion, or to worship in a mosque?

To the Tea Party, liberty is just an empty slogan.
This is their statement of goals:
Quote:
Mission Statement
Propelled by millions of Tea Party supporters across the country, Tea Party Express has become the most aggressive and influential national Tea Party group in the political arena. We are committed to identifying and supporting conservative candidates and causes that will champion tea party values and return our country to the Constitutional principles that have made America the “shining city on a hill.”


Tea Party Express is proud to stand for six simple principles:
No more bailouts
Reduce the size and intrusiveness of government
Stop raising our taxes
Repeal Obamacare
Cease out-of-control spending
Bring back American prosperity
I am not an economist.
I do not pretend to expertise in that area.
The Tea Party is not limited only to economists.
I have no strong feelings qua bailouts; possibly,
it might have been the best thing to do.

I wish that the statement of principles had aggressively committed
the Tea Party to eradicate, extirpate, and annihilate any vestige of discrimination
qua WHO can legally defend his life from the predatory violence
of man or beast, in favor of EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS.

For example, if a child of 8 is confronted with a pack of pit bulls
who wish to tear him apart and eat him while he lives,
his right to use the necessary equipment to successfully apply sufficient power
to prevail and survive that situation shud be legally un-challenged.
The law shud not require him to "cast his fate to the winds"
nor into the discretion of the aforesaid pit bulls, on grounds of his age.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2013 07:21 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:
I switched my party affiliation to Libertarian.
Strategically, splitting the pro-freedom vote
can operate to the success of the authoritarians; problems with that.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2013 04:53 am
@Baldimo,
Quote:
I switched my party affiliation to Libertarian.


We need runoff elections. Nobody should ever have to fear voting his first choice on a first ballot, and nobody should ever hold any elected office with less than 50% of the vote.

But, until we have that, rational people HAVE to vote against demoKKKrats and that means vote for whoever has the best mathematical shot at preventing the ******* demoKKKrat from winning.

Libertarians just handed Virginia over to the forces of darkness.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2013 04:57 am
@maxdancona,
Quote:
Muslim is a religion. Al Qaeda are extremists. I have no problem with you saying that Al Qaeda is a terrorist group. I object to you smearing all Muslims with that label.


Problem is, that AQ are interpreting I-slam correctly, and the others are not.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 7 Nov, 2013 09:23 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Libertarians just handed Virginia over to the forces of darkness.


Yes!

Three Cheers for the Forces of Darkness!!!
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