@Advocate,
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Pals on many, many, occasions have donned suicide vests, etc., and have murdered innocent Jews. I have never seen where Jews have done similar. These Pals who murder innocent children, the elderly, et al., are vermin and, at the same time, apparently your heroes.
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
--- Henry David Thoreau
That was indeed sad, the many bus bombings in Isreal.....and one can understand the need to erect a wall to diminish the risks Israelis are/were exposed to. Whenever innocent people are killed it is a travesty....a life is a precious thing and once it's gone, there's no getting it back.
Anytime individuals choose to give their one life, it surely must be out of sheer desperation, and truly who among us will deny the Palestinians are a desperate people, and a desperate people may become a dangerous people. The occupation in the disputed territories is the root cause and the chasing the Palestinians from the homes which today is called modern Israel. The root cause of the trouble is conceive via the displacement and the refugees who are not allowed to become Israelis even. These displaced Palestinians are crying out to the international community who has heard their cry. They are now recognized in the UN a status which the US tried to prevent as a favor to Israel.
You complain of Palestinians atrocities against Israel but there are even worse atrocities against the Palestinian refugees by Israel. Remember the Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982, for starters? It was the slaughter of between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites, by a Lebanese Christian militia in the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon from approximately 6:00 pm 16 September to 8:00 am 18 September 1982. Ariel Sharon was a general at the time and he placed IDF at every conceivable entrance so no Palestinian man, woman or child could escape. Ariel Sharon was demoted for his role....he might have thought he got off easy, but time has placed this man in a vegetative state of which he will most likely ever to emerge.
Quote:As I think you know, Israel essentially never set foot in the WB and Gaza before the '67 War, when it was attacked by numerous Arab armies. Israel kept to this despite hundreds of attacks by the Pals, and the Pal desecretion of Jewish holy sites (e.g., the Western Wall Area.) These and other factors certainly give Israel the right to take land beyond the '67 borders for security and other purposes.
Israel has no rights beyond the 56% land she was given in 1948. Israel is an expansionist nation and personally I don't think it will ever be satisfied with the land it has, the land it continues to steal from the Palestinians. Now this might sound farfetched but I think Israel would dearly love to take over one of the rich oil states. Right after GWB adm had invaded Iraq, Nouri Al-Maliki, Iraq's Prime Minister, was asked if Israel could have a pipeline run from Iraq to Israel. Maliki said "no." That the Arab league would have to sanction such a move and they were not going to while Israel remains far removed from her 1967 borders. That was quite a disappointment to the US and Israel because the Zionist nation was sure it was going to profit from the ouster of Saddam hussein and partake of Iraq's oil.
Have a good evening, friend.
