Come the fall of... or Come fall of...??

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When composing a sentence such as:
I picture myself next fall of 2014 sipping a cup of tea in front of the Champs Elysees.
What would be the proper way of using "Come"?
Come fall of 2014, I see myself sipping a cup of tea in front of Champs Elysees
or
Come the fall of 2014, I see myself sipping a cup of tea in front of Champs Elysees.

Thank you in advance for your help!!!

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[+5] - Lordyaswas - 09/18/2013Come next fall? Even better....come next autumn.

@cleo1,

The Champs Elysees (Elysian Fields) is a street/ boulevard, so "on the Champs Elysees" would make more sense.

I think "come the fall of..." sounds better in this case.

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Come next fall?

Even better....come next autumn.

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@McTag,

thank you!!!

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@McTag,

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I think "come the fall of..." sounds better in this case.

Do you think the other is a possibility?

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@JTT,

Yes, it is. It sounds a bit compressed to my British ears, that's all. We prefer to refer to "autumn", as you know, but we speak Merkin too.

Context, as you often remark, is key. In this case, I thought the longer phrase sounded better.

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I'd capitalise 'Fall' and go with "Come Fall of...."

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Many wouldn't.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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I'd capitalise 'Fall'

Are you sure? The seasons spring, summer, autumn/ fall, winter are usually written like that.

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@McTag,

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I'd capitalise 'Fall'

Are you sure? The seasons spring, summer, autumn/ fall, winter are usually written like that.

They were formerly capitalised more often than they are nowadays. The modern tendency (since about 1900) is to lowercase names of seasons, points of the compass, etc, unless the word is part of a proper name. For example Winter Olympics, the North Pole, but summer showers, north of London, geese fly south in the winter.

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@contrex,

There you are then.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

There you are then.

Here I am indeed.

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@McTag,

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I think "come the fall of..." sounds better in this case.

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jtt: Do you think the other is a possibility?

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Yes, it is. It sounds a bit compressed to my British ears, that's all.

I think it sounds unnatural when extended descriptors using 'of' are used.

Come fall of 2014, I see myself sipping a cup of tea ???

Come the fall of 2014,

Come fall/autumn or Come next fall/autumn are dandy.

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@JTT,

In spring, I enjoy walks in the countryside. (every spring)

In the spring of 2104, I see myself in Paris. (a particular one)

But in general, I would say that they are pretty much interchangeable.

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@McTag,

Maybe I should have chosen a different year, like 2014.

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@McTag,

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But in general, I would say that they are pretty much interchangeable.

This, below, without 'the', is okay?

In spring of 2104, I see myself in Paris. (a particular one)

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@JTT,

No, I think it sounds a bit strange. In that phrase, I would prefer the "the" to be included.
I suspect this is a transatlantic thing, if your opinion differs.

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@McTag,

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I suspect this is a transatlantic thing, if your opinion differs.

No, I think there is some confusion here and it may well be yours.

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I think "come the fall of..." sounds better in this case.

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Do you think the other [without 'the'] is a possibility?

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Yes, it is.

And now in this post you say,

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No, I think it sounds a bit strange.

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@JTT,

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No, I think there is some confusion here and it may well be yours.

Now we're back to your favourite "angels on the head of a pin" logic.

I have indicated that both phrases are perfectly clear. I have indicated my preference. But you don't want to leave it there, oh no.

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@McTag,

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Now we're back to your favourite "angels on the head of a pin" logic.

No, sadly, we're back to your seeking any tangent to avoid addressing the actual issue.

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I have indicated that both phrases are perfectly clear.

To you "No, I think it sounds a bit strange" indicates what you have said above?

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