Snowdon is a dummy

They must have spied on the NSA to make that confirmation.

One thing is for damn sure; they don't need 800,000 workers looking for terrorists on US citizens' private communication/information data collection.

Frank Apisa wrote:

They must have spied on the NSA to make that confirmation.

Well, that information had been given before the 1968 secret- information-sharing pact with the United States had been stopped by the German government in August.

Some manageable amount that is directly related to terrorists - not American citizens.

That's in accordance with our Constitution.

Yes, but it's only a wild guess. I would say 500 for the whole department is plenty. Al qaeda is pretty much isolated already, and most of the 'other' intelligence agencies already work on terrorist activities 24/7. We're talking about only one segment of intelligence; the NSA. Most of their activities are putting their nose into private lives all across this planet. Most countries already have privacy rights where they operate - illegally.

That's not good for foreign relations or for international commerce.

Good to know you "see" the Big Difference!

That's not good for foreign relations or for international commerce.

What was "approved by congress" was based on lies and innuendos, and not knowing what the NSA was doing. This kind of secret is against our Constitution.

This is also how our government started the wars on lies in Vietnam and Iraq.

They lied to congress.

Fire DNI James Clapper: He lied to Congress about NSA surveillance.

By U.S. Rep. David Schweikert

Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:26 PM
Every week, new revelations are exposing how the NSA and other intelligence agencies misled Congress and the American people about invasive data gathering that violates our fundamental principles of privacy.

Just last week, a D.C. Circuit Court judge ruled that the NSA’s phone data-collection practices likely violate constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure. The court proceedings provided a window into operations at the NSA that should give every citizen reason for concern and even more compelling reasons why Congress must work together to reign in the NSA’s abuse of power.

Come on? I'm not sure whether you read the newspaper/media or listen to the radio or tv, but this is now 'common' knowledge to many around the world.

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Fire DNI James Clapper: He lied to Congress about NSA surveillance.

No, Frank, there's a huge difference when congress is lied to by our intelligence agencies and the charges against congress. You're only using a straw-man issue that has absolutely nothing to do with a) our government lied to by any branch of the government, b) the illegal processing of any intelligence agency to collect US citizen's communication (privacy is guaranteed by our Constitution), and c) the balance of power between the three branches of our government.

cicerone imposter wrote:

That's not good for foreign relations or for international commerce.

Apisa is not concerned with such materialistic matters as that. He is concerned with saving American lives no matter what the cost. He can't be faulted. He chooses positions he can't be faulted on unless you ask him if the cost of saving every American life from terrorists kills more Americans in the hospitals and areas of deprivation.
He definitely won't answer any questions of that nature. He's the reincarnation of Florence Nightingale. A saint in our midst.

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The panel recommends keeping the database with phone companies or a trusted third party, requiring requests when data is needed.

Most of the people who are against letting the NSA keep the data themselves, also tend to not think highly of corporations.

If this proposal to let a "trusted third party" hold all the data is actually implemented, wait until it dawns on the NSA's critics that they've just handed all this private information over to a dreaded corporate entity.