reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 11:03 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
For liberals, the only rational conservative is the one that agrees with them.


Don't you think that a liberal is being rational when he/she agrees with you?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 11:47 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Unfortunately, no matter how rationally we express ourselves,

Roger and Tico are the only one's that manage to do so.....
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 11:53 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Unfortunately, no matter how rationally we express ourselves,

Roger and Tico are the only one's that manage to do so.....


bullshit, finn has had some very tight and sound arguments. finn is however no warm and cuddly like your examples...the real problem for you.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 11:55 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
bullshit, finn has had some very tight and sound arguments.


Would you please share one of them that all liberals disagreed with so that I can know what it is that you two agree about.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
i have no intention of doing that much work for you. I dont even agree with him very often, but there is a long running practice here of dismissing good arguments by mis-labeling them crap not worthy of response, which is what finn is talking about i think. people are also mis labeled as crap not worthy of having any of their ideas taken seriously, but that is another problem.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:

i have no intention of doing that much work for you.


I thought that maybe you could think of just one good argument or debate and copy and paste it but no big deal. Wink
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

i have no intention of doing that much work for you. I dont even agree with him very often, but there is a long running practice here of dismissing good arguments by mis-labeling them crap not worthy of response, which is what finn is talking about i think. people are also mis labeled as crap not worthy of having any of their ideas taken seriously, but that is another problem.


Actually, I agree with you here, Hawk. Good arguments often are dismissed as crap for no good reason...other than that the dismissing party disagrees.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
it is cultural warfare being practiced...too few of us care where the truth is, or entertain the possibility that we dont already know.
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roger
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 01:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
Finn presents his positions very well and very often. My favorite in politics has always been FreeDuck. I cherish those rare liberals who can make me seriously reevaluate a position.

As for warm and cuddly, I'll take what I can get even if it is just the fuzzy avatar.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 01:08 pm
@roger,
we should talk about why americans have become like this, why are we not willing to take others as our equals if we disagree with them, why do we try to cleanse the airwaves of views we dont agree with as if others would be infected with a fatal virus if they heard the "wrong" words ?

my theory is that too many people live in a fantasy world, and some where in the back of their minds they know they are not reality based, and they lash out at any threats to their delusions.

I am over 50, I remember when people could sit around with others that they deeply disagreed with, finding common ground, and having a good time. we lost that somewhere.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 03:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
there is a long running practice here of dismissing good arguments by mis-labeling them crap not worthy of response, which is what finn is talking about i think.


Do you think that people here would dismiss this as being crap not worthy of a response?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc-hardball_with_chris_matthews/vp/52278552#52278668
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engineer
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 03:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
The Internet has never been a place where people sit around with others and find common ground. It's really hard to do that when you don't have to look someone in the eye.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 03:26 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

The Internet has never been a place where people sit around with others and find common ground. It's really hard to do that when you don't have to look someone in the eye.

fair point, but I think what we see at A2K closely tracks what is happening outside of the internet.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 04:33 pm
@roger,
Quote:
Oh yeah, there was a draft exemption for college students in the Vietnam era. Four years college, more in post grad work, and the war was over. We have a word for people that followed that route. BOSS.


Well, that certainly was one way to prevent a body from getting involved in what was one humongous war crime, Roger.

From your tone, it sounds like you didn't quite make the grade.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 04:37 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
Quote:
He recently told me that I was wise to not pay the Mensa test fee, since disappointment would have been inevitable.


Yeah, ... and ?
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 04:40 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Since the day i first noticed his presence, i've seen him attempt to pick fights and slander people.


Puuuuuuuuuullllleeeeeezzzeeeee, Setanta.


Quote:
The first time i got into an argument with him, he began calling me pooch and offered to kick my dog. Oh yeah, that was really enlightened.


Now it all comes out, eh? This was thee event that set you on your Finn-hunting ways.

You really never were any good at just letting things go, Setanta. In fact, I'd say that you are numero uno when it comes to holding a grudge.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 04:43 pm
@Rockhead,
Quote:
I think he needs a hug.

(somebody else will have to do it...)[/quote

You're numero dos, Rocky.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
I can still do this with some conservatives in my area, and than there are the ones who just state BS as truth and refuse to reevaluate their position. With those I dont even try. Just listen and point out to them later that they were fed a bunch of crap from people with an agenda.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:13 pm
We all have the tendency to grade our own papers. Its called confirmation bias.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:22 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
We all have the tendency to grade our own papers. Its called confirmation bias.


Well at least you are getting closer to the truth but you are still a little bit wrong. Wink
 

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