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Can you do, what I can do? Comma optional

 
 
sipoi
 
Reply Sun 16 Jun, 2013 04:48 pm
Hi, New member, I am writing something for children. I really want to get it right.

I think this comma is optional.

Can you do, what I can do?
Can you do what I can do?

I prefer it with a comma, is either correct?

Thanks
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jun, 2013 05:32 pm
@sipoi,

no, the comma is not optional.

the second example is correct...
sipoi
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jun, 2013 06:18 pm
@Region Philbis,
Thank you. Great help.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jun, 2013 10:01 am
@Region Philbis,
Phil I see it as a matter of style and circumstance

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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jun, 2013 09:03 pm
@sipoi,
Quote:
I think this comma is optional.

Can you do, what I can do?
Can you do what I can do?

I prefer it with a comma, is either correct?


Yes, either is correct, Sipoi. To suggest otherwise would mean that some nuances of language are forbidden to us, which is a really crazy proposition.

With the comma, there is a pause [obviously]. It could denote that you are trying to pique the interest of the listener.
sharlenekeene
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 04:43 am
@sipoi,
I agree with Dalehileman,
It about circumstance and how we want to express.
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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 05:05 am
I see the inserted comma as a confusion.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 09:52 am
@neologist,
Quote:
I see the inserted comma as a confusion.


You're just looking at it the wrong way, Neo.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 10:52 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
I think this comma is optional.

Can you do, what I can do?
Can you do what I can do?

I prefer it with a comma, is either correct?


Yes, either is correct, Sipoi. To suggest otherwise would mean that some nuances of language are forbidden to us, which is a really crazy proposition.

With the comma, there is a pause [obviously]. It could denote that you are trying to pique the interest of the listener.


Newsflash: Just because it's not your way, JTT, doesn't mean it's wrong.

I agree with neologist and RP. If the writer wanted to stress I, he could italicize it.

Can you do what I can do?

That makes much more sense.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:04 am
@Mame,
Quote:
Newsflash: Just because it's not your way, JTT, doesn't mean it's wrong.


How would you show a pause where a pause exists?

Would italicizing 'I' illustrate that a pause exists?

McTag
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:15 am
@JTT,

No pause, no comma.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:21 am
@McTag,
Quote:
No pause, no comma.



http://able2know.org/topic/215572-1#post-5348430

@contrex,

Contrex: An attempted short definition of intellectual rigour (US spelling: "rigor") might be that no suspicion of double standard be allowed: uniform principles should be applied. If a topic or case is dealt with in a rigorous way, it means that it is dealt with in a comprehensive, thorough and complete way, leaving no room for inconsistencies.

=================

McTag: I think I'd be hard-pressed to put that any better myself.
Intellectual rigour also means striving to meet the highest academic standards (in a teaching establishment).
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:23 am
@JTT,
We don't know he intended there to be a pause.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:52 am

Can you do... what I can do?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 11:56 am
@Mame,
Quote:
We don't know he intended there to be a pause.


This is the title of the thread, Mame.

Can you do, what I can do? Comma optional

Before you go any further you have to read and acknowledge that you understand the following:

Quote:
Contrex: An attempted short definition of intellectual rigour (US spelling: "rigor") might be that no suspicion of double standard be allowed: uniform principles should be applied. If a topic or case is dealt with in a rigorous way, it means that it is dealt with in a comprehensive, thorough and complete way, leaving no room for inconsistencies.

=================

McTag: I think I'd be hard-pressed to put that any better myself.
Intellectual rigour also means striving to meet the highest academic standards (in a teaching establishment).
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 12:03 pm
@Region Philbis,
There's another possibility. Good on ya, Region.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 01:44 pm
@JTT,

yeah, but who talks like that?
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 01:50 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
We don't know he intended there to be a pause.


This is the title of the thread, Mame.

Can you do, what I can do? Comma optional



That may be the title of the thread but that doesn't mean we know his intentions. Maybe he read that question somewhere and wanted confirmation that the comma doesn't belong, which it doesn't.

Maybe we should wait until the OP returns to tell us what he wanted to imply.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 01:52 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
yeah, but who talks like that?


People who want to say things in a way that aren't the norm.

Does everyone "talk" like you just did with your inserted comma after 'yeah', put in bold and enlarged, above? Is that the norm or the/an exception?
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 02:04 pm
@Mame,
Quote:
That may be the title of the thread but that doesn't mean we know his intentions. Maybe he read that question somewhere and wanted confirmation that the comma doesn't belong, which it doesn't.

Maybe we should wait until the OP returns to tell us what he wanted to imply.


Or, here's a novel idea - maybe, just maybe we could read what the OP actually said.


Quote:
I think this comma is optional.

Can you do, what I can do?
Can you do what I can do?

I prefer it with a comma, is either correct?


How about this. Did you read the following, Mame? Can you comprehend what it entails?

Quote:
Contrex: An attempted short definition of intellectual rigour (US spelling: "rigor") might be that no suspicion of double standard be allowed: uniform principles should be applied. If a topic or case is dealt with in a rigorous way, it means that it is dealt with in a comprehensive, thorough and complete way, leaving no room for inconsistencies.

=================

McTag: I think I'd be hard-pressed to put that any better myself.
Intellectual rigour also means striving to meet the highest academic standards (in a teaching establishment).
 

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