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Iran Elects Moderate(ish) President. Will it change anything?

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 01:04 pm
@JTT,
Went away to think about that? You needn't have bothered.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 01:11 pm
@izzythepush,
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You needn't have bothered.


Because it was so readily apparent to all, Izzy. Perhaps you're right.

Notice how you have gotten off the topic of Iran and US/UK terrorism against them. That's classic Izzy lies and diversion.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 01:15 pm
@JTT,
The topic is the political change in Iran, not your personal obsessions.

You tried to derail this from the off, because the only person you care about is JTT.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 01:31 pm
@izzythepush,
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The topic is the political change in Iran,


And you are so naive/stupid/ignorant/... to think that the 60 years of terrorism on the part of the US and the UK have nothing to do with this topic.

Talk about diversion! Have you grown weary of reviewing your lies, Izzy?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 02:17 pm
@JTT,
I've grown weary of wasting time talking to you, as have so many others.


That's why you're on ignore so much, it's because above all else you're incredibly tedious. That's the truth you cannot face. That's why you spend so much time on something so big, because it's the only thing big enough to stop you facing the truth about yourself.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 02:28 pm
@izzythepush,
Thank you for this one bit of honesty, Izzy. You have grown weary of advancing your lies and that's perfectly understandable.

As to the other issues regarding the US and the UK. If you could stay on topic, you would have to agree with me. But you are more interested in sniffing MiT's junk and patronizing Frank and Sig than getting to the truth.

Israel is a piker in the grand scheme of things and I don't begrudge anyone their position who seeks to advance justice for people oppressed. It's just the incredible inbalance.

You think I'm tedious. Virtually everything that is printed, spoken, distributed in any fashion is so lop sided towards the US/UK/Canada/Australia/... . The propaganda is relentless.

Run to the safety of ignore, Izzy. You'll find lots of sniffing available to you there.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 10 Nov, 2013 02:57 pm
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US, Israel Invoke Terror To Ratchet Up War Threats Against Iran
By Bill Van Auken
Global Research, February 17, 2012
World Socialist Web Site 17 February 2012

Both Washington and Israel have seized upon a string of abortive bomb plots in India, Georgia and Thailand to escalate war threats against Iran.

In India, an unknown individual on a motorcycle attached a bomb to a car in which the wife of an Israeli diplomat was riding in Delhi on February 13. The woman and the car’s driver were lightly injured. On the same day in Tbilisi, Georgia, a bomb was discovered attached to an Israeli embassy vehicle and defused.

And in Bangkok, Thailand, three individuals identified as Iranians were arrested after a bizarre incident Tuesday in which explosives detonated inside their apartment and one of them blew off his own legs with a homemade grenade.

The three incidents, in which there were no fatalities, were immediately labeled by the Israeli government as terrorist attacks organized by Tehran that, in the words of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, demonstrated why all nations must draw “red lines against Iranian aggression.”

“Iran’s terror operations are now exposed for all to see,” Netanyahu said during a Knesset [Israeli parliament] plenum on Wednesday. “Iran is undermining the world’s stability and harms innocent diplomats.”

What was striking about the first two incidents in Delhi and Tbilisi was that they involved the use of devices—bombs attached by magnets to cars—similar to those used to assassinate at least four Iranian nuclear scientists over the past two years.

The reported aim of these attacks has been to sabotage Iran’s supposed quest for a nuclear weapon, although Tehran has denied such aims and neither the International Atomic Energy Agency nor anyone else has provided evidence that Iran is seeking nuclear arms. For its part, Israel is believed to possess some 400 nuclear weapons.

As US intelligence officials and Israeli sources have confirmed, those terrorist attacks—the latest of which claimed the life of Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a scientist employed at Iran’s Natanz uranium enrichment facility, on January 11—were organized by the Israeli spy agency, Mossad, in collaboration with operatives of the MeK, or People’s Mujahedin, a group classified by Washington as an international terrorist organization.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-israel-invoke-terror-to-ratchet-up-war-threats-against-iran
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 05:39 am
@JTT,
You're still in denial.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 05:41 am
The latest.

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An unknown attacker has shot dead Iran's deputy industry minister.

Safdar Rahmatabadi was driving in Tehran's Sabalan Square late on Sunday when he was shot once in the head and once in the chest, the state news agency IRNA reported.

A police officer told the agency that the attacker appeared to have been inside Mr Rahmatabadi's vehicle and spoke to him before opening fire.

There was no speculation as to why the deputy minister was targeted.

Police said they had begun an investigation. No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24892869
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 06:02 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
izzythepush wrote:
The thought of peace terrifies you.

You've stolen that right from Oralloy, Izzy.
Something more to add to your resume.

Now wait a minute. I'd be delighted if peace could be achieved based on 1967 borders.

When thugs like izzythepush sabotage the peace process, they aren't getting that from me.

I do favor treating the Palestinians very harshly if the peace talks collapse (they deserve it). But that does not mean I want the peace talks to collapse.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 09:17 am
@izzythepush,
And you're still a compulsive, self confessed liar.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 09:27 am
@RABEL222,
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Let us hope that Israel doesn't do something stupid in an attempt to break up the talks cause the U S of A doesn't have the balls to tell them if they do we'll drop them as "allies".



Happy Veteran's Day, Rabel.

Israel is more of a albatross than a friend. Israel is more likely the one behind the assassination of Iranian scientists. The US doesn't need Israel but the Zionist nation certainly need the US to survive in the country where its exploiting the Palestinians by stealing their land. Israel has never heeded the calls of the UN to vacate the occupied territories of the West Bank. Israel makes enemies and they become America's enemies. One of the three reasons Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 was because of Israel. That tiny Zionist nation has made the US a target.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 09:54 am
@Moment-in-Time,
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Israel makes enemies and they become America's enemies. One of the three reasons Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 was because of Israel. That tiny Zionist nation has made the US a target.


The US doesn't need Israel to make enemies, MiT. You are making it sound like Israel is to blame when it is the US's greedy rapacious nature that makes the world hate the US.

You can't blame your lies on ignorance because you are well aware of the US's murderous, rapacious ways. You are just doing what you've been doing from the get go, making apologies for war crimes and war criminals, for the myriad terrorist actions that the US commits daily, that the US has been committing since its inception.

Why don't you try to make the "country of your birth" what it is supposed to be, what the propaganda describes it as, instead of what it really is?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 10:18 am
@JTT,
You can talk, nobody runs away from the truth like you.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 01:15 pm
@izzythepush,
You sure are adept at making stuff up, Iz.

Are you defending MiT, Izzy, 'cause she ran like hell to the safety of ignore? She ran like you run, when you are asked a question, when you lie and scatter, when you advance a ludicrous notion and lack the "honesty" [I use that word guardedly with you as reference] to address your stupidity.

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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 01:27 pm
@izzythepush,
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You can talk, nobody runs away from the truth like you.


People who lament the same narrative ad infinitum tend to be suffering from a personality disorder. This disorder is described as a mental illness labeled Repetition Compulsion. From all the posts I've read by the obviously enraged JTT he has exhibited these symptoms. JTT is who he is, an angry poster stuck in a psychological trench; he cannot go forward or backwards.....he is just stuck in his own reality.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 01:54 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
There's definitely something missing. He has a very literalist view of everything, he has no understanding of nuance or concept of the absurd. His need to have the last word means he will continue posting, looking increasingly more ridiculous.

It's incredibly easy to trip him up with nonsense logic, he never gets the joke, not even when it's pointed out to him. Charles Dodgson would have had a field day.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 05:44 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
Israel is more of a albatross than a friend.

Only horrible anti-Semites think that.


Moment-in-Time wrote:
the Zionist nation certainly need the US to survive

Not at all. Israel could survive without the US just by being more proactive about keeping their neighbors beaten down.


Moment-in-Time wrote:
exploiting the Palestinians by stealing their land.

Fiction. The Palestinians have no land to even steal.

And in fact, Israel has actually given them land, in the mistaken belief that it would lead to peace.

Israel would have given the Palestinians even more land if it would have actually led to peace.


Moment-in-Time wrote:
Israel has never heeded the calls of the UN to vacate the occupied territories of the West Bank.

That's a lie. Those same UN resolutions also demand that the Palestinians make peace with Israel, and Israel has for years repeatedly tried to exchange land for peace according to those UN resolutions.


Moment-in-Time wrote:
One of the three reasons Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 was because of Israel.

Nope. The only reason al-Qa'ida attacks us is because they are Muslims.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 11 Nov, 2013 05:45 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:
People who lament the same narrative ad infinitum tend to be suffering from a personality disorder. This disorder is described as a mental illness labeled Repetition Compulsion. From all the posts I've read by the obviously enraged JTT he has exhibited these symptoms. JTT is who he is, an angry poster stuck in a psychological trench; he cannot go forward or backwards.....he is just stuck in his own reality.

Your lack of morals or any understanding of right and wrong is impeding your judgement.

I do think JTT is wrong on the facts, but if he were correct about what we are doing, his behavior here would be entirely reasonable.

Since you are unable to comprehend "doing the right thing," you do not recognize what is in fact ordinary ethical behavior.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 12 Nov, 2013 04:06 am
@izzythepush,
John Kerry seems positive, which is a good thing.

Quote:
US Secretary of State John Kerry has told the BBC that none of the differences between world powers and Iran over its nuclear programme are big enough to prevent agreement.

He said they came "extremely close" to a deal at the weekend in Geneva.

But he said the rest of the world had to be certain that Iran was not pursuing a nuclear weapons programme.

Three days of negotiations ended without a breakthrough, but diplomats will meet again on 20 November.

"We were very, very close actually, extremely close," Mr Kerry said.

Unity

Speaking to the BBC's State Department correspondent Kim Ghattas, Mr Kerry reaffirmed that it would "take time to work through differences" between the US and Iran.

"We haven't been speaking for 35 years," he said. "We just talked more in 30 hours than we have in those prior 30 years."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24908005
 

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