Is it egotistical to think that a God would die for you?

This person doesn't understand evolution.

That's the level they're at.

“Die, wicked fundamentalist! You deserve this!” open-minded Episcopalians were heard yelling at the unrepentant man as he went up in flames. “Too bad you weren’t more open-minded and tolerant of heresies, untruths, ungrounded speculations, and other loosey-goosey opinions about the Bible!”

“I would say ‘burn in hell,’ if I believed the Bible when it says that such a place exists! But I emphatically do not!” another member was heard shouting.

This was totally in the news.

https://babylonbee.com/news/episcopal-church-burns-man-stake-believing-biblical-inerrancy/

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“Die, wicked fundamentalist! You deserve this!” open-minded Episcopalians were heard yelling at the unrepentant man as he went up in flames. “Too bad you weren’t more open-minded and tolerant of heresies, untruths, ungrounded speculations, and other loosey-goosey opinions about the Bible!”

“I would say ‘burn in hell,’ if I believed the Bible when it says that such a place exists! But I emphatically do not!” another member was heard shouting.

In other news, you're confusing "truth" for "hate". I know it's a difficult concept, but I believe some day you'll get it.

See this is your problem.

I say one thing, and you hear another.

Timothy talks about people having itching ears. I think it's Thessalonians that talks about about people being under a great delusion.

You literally see people who are trying to set you straight as hateful (you and izzy both, topoint where I can't tell you apart because you're both so lockstep), and declaring that they'll send you into hell.

Haven't you realized it? You ARE in Hell! Some of us are trying to pull you fools OUT of there because you're dragging us in there with you. Noticed gas prices lately? Lemme put it this way, I went to get gas for my car and some for my lawnmower. I spent $4 for car, and $6 for mower. $6 a year ago filled the mower container, now it's like half. I feel like our cabbage prices went up from $0.85 a head to $0.85/lb. Not just economics either. Our society has fundamentally changed. I challenge you not to wear a mask for a week, and count the places that won't allow you in. Or plays or movies or other event that have been cancelled "to contain the spread." I'm sorry , what spread? Our town is code red, which seems to only extend to its political leanings. Or airline flights gone. Or shipping vastly delayed. Btw, have fun at Christmas or Thanksgiving or Halloween when candy is basically unavailable, or you can't eat outside without harassment. When are you going to wake up?!?

I'm not interested in condemning you. I'm into talking some sense into you, but you, much like the Pharisees, is a massive brick wall that doesn't absorb anything, or maybe absorbs everything into rhe wall. You think people who have used and exploited you are your friends because they talk in a polite manner. "Won't you please give me all your money and all of your human rights? Please sir, wear this mask (intended as a dog muzzle to shut you up and cement your status as a slave), you're helping to keep us all safe."
Friends tell other friends the truth. The Bible intstructs me to love my enemy, what does that mean? Well liberals tell you that it's telling everyone sweet lies about how they're not really sinners. Nope, you, me, all sinners. Can we move on? That's not the important part.
No, it means trying to help people who disagree with you, even if they can't stand your help. It means standing up for truth, even while ppl like Pilate says "What is truth?" It means saying some very unpopular things, like that what's actually running countries nowadays is not elected presidents but oligarchs that throw their money and power around, and treat us like peons. Do you think Soros ever has to worry about the environment? Nah, he probably chain smokes, drives a luxury car, and has a very nice house that he has somehow opted out of paying property taxes for. Rules are for little people, right? But you probably don't know who Soros is.

So-called hateful ppl honestly just want to live in Texas or whatever, and have it be like the place they grew up in. Tolerant people seem to like to bully and harrass people to make Texas into California or Massachusetts. Dude, seriously. If you love Massachusetts so much, why not leave everyone outside of it alone? Honest God, some couple legit went from Massachusetts to Colorado because they couldn't stand that someone there had the nerve to want to do business on their own terms. How dare he!!! So bigoted against gays and trans ppl! Maybe if said ppl were actually from his state and not trying to ram views down his throat ormock him for his beliefs, this bigotry accusation would actually be real?

No, I'm afraid I do know what I'm talking about.

But go on, keep getting duped by those around you. They want you Dead.

Note the Tolkien capitalization.

Neither "blind guesses" nor "reality" are truths. It is precisely because I know what is Reality that I speak to you thus. If it didn't matter, then I would certainly drop the subject.

I'm gonna ask you something. How do you think this all works? You think other people can't be sure. Which is basically the hardest agnosticism I've ever seen. (Most agnostics simply maintain they aren't sure, they don't impose a position of hard skepticism on other people) If knowledge of any kind is impossible, how is that different from nihilism? After all, if nothing can be sure, why bother?
And you don't wanna be a nihilist. Many people think they do, because it's a nice foray into their own desires. But if you don't have a purpose (not a job), you find yourself old and gray, having wasted your better years doing someone else's bidding. Or maybe you let some addiction destroy your body. Or maybe you join one of the many feel-good cults the world has to offer. I'm not talking about religions. There's the military cult where you tell yourself you are serving your country and you seek after glory, only to get yourself blowed up, and all they give them is a stupid trinket. There's the sex cult, where you get STDs as an award, and probably no life ever comes out of these dalliances, because the sex cult is actually related to the abortion cult (these ones have names, Baal and Molech). There's the state cult where you worship your government and the power it promises you. Until... they start raising taxes on you, to take everything you have. If these things don't matter, why do all these false cults tend to harm you?

How does life work, if you and, so you say, I can be sure of nothing in religious matters?

I do not know if any GOD (or gods) exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect that gods cannot exist…that the existence of a GOD or gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that at least one GOD must exist...that the existence of at least one GOD is needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction on whether any gods exist or not...so I don't.

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If you think you can counter anything about that, please offer your counter. But quote what I have said exactly...cut and paste, please.

We can discuss your response.

I had a few of my posts deleted and I was temporarily banned. Since Bulma did a great job discussing homosexuality, I will leave it at that.
Since Frank refuses to accept that there is more to the Spiritual world than "maybe God exists" there is litter I can do for him. However, there are other people paying attention.
Frank thinks logically. In human terms he is a good man. Since he rejects the apologetics of Christians over the last 2000 years and hr won't accept people's testimony there is little I can do.

An interesting question is how do you define the term god?

I can not see a Christian god existing in any case.

Just using the word god without defining the word is meaningless.

Neal asked Frank:
“ Why did you stop believing?”

Then, they separate children from their daemons — a painful, often fatal process called intercision. Since daemons are an extension of a person’s soul, intercision is akin to a lobotomy. Even if a person survives the process, he’s stripped of vitality. What is the purpose of intercision?

To the Church, Dust is a very, very bad thing. It’s physical evidence of Original Sin. Dust first landed on humans after Adam and Eve made the conscious decision to eat the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. After that act, the Church believes humankind was irrevocably fallen. Dust is a reminder.

After the intercision process, Dust no longer settles on a person. That’s because her mind is completely closed to thoughts, choice, and vitality; she shuffles along purposelessly. The Gobblers aren’t saving kids. What the Gobblers are really doing is killing their spirits, and often their bodies.