@Greatest I am,
Quote:So God sets man an impossible task, and has his son murdered to make up for his stupid error ...
It is notorious that you can't understand what happened at the very beginning.
Adam, the first man has it very easy. It was to work in the Garden of Eden, and eat whatever he wanted but the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and bad.
This wasn't an "impossible" task.
Just don't eat that fruit and you can live "forever", simple.
After Adam failed, things were complicated, because he was sent to the "outside of the Garden of Eden" world and his life won't be as simple as it was before. And the more generations came, the more man became more disobedient.
Quote:Are you willing to ignore the wisdom that follows.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezekiel 18:20 (ESV) The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
No, I am not ignoring those words.
Quote:Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.
Here is another part that you also can't understand.
Even when you won't believe this sh*t, this is how it works.
Do you remember that the Israelite used to bring to the Temple an animal without faults to be sacrificed as an offering or, as the method to obtain forgiveness for his sins?
Well, the idea was that this Israelite will travel to the Temple, will sacrifice one of his best animals, and will obtain pardon for his sins.
This was a weird way of repentance. A repentance that will cost you a bull, a sheep, a bird ...
From these sacrifices, the priest ate the cooked animal with their families when it was a sacrifice because sin. When it was a sacrifice because offering, then you -and your family- can also eat from the cooked animal.
This Israelite took it as a game. He didn't care much about sinning because by bringing an animal for sacrifice the debt with God was canceled.
Piece a cake.
As you can notice, the sacrificed animal suffered for the wrongs the Israelite committed.
In other words, somebody or someone must pay the price. God wanted blood, the High Priest was the king of knives.
All these sacrifices didn't work as they were supposed to work, because people didn't repent the way they should be doing.
Here is when Jesus comes to the scenario.
Men didn't have a model to follow and obtain the life which was offered to Adam at the beginning.
Jesus is just the model, the way, the leader.
It is said that Jesus didn't commit any sin. He was pure, he was in figurative, the clean and without blames animal for sacrifice.
Now, here is the part you are not taking in consideration.
Repentance.
This dude Jesus died as the sacrificed animal for cleaning up the sins OF THE ONES WHO REPENT OF THEIR WRONG DOINGS.
Jesus bleeding is not for the ones who won't repent.
Understood?
So, this is the game rules.
This dude Jesus was the lamb to be sacrificed for the wrong doings you have made and from which you are repent.
This is the key word, repentance.
Then, the second step is to start anew.
After you repent, you are supposed not to sin anymore.
So, repentance is not be crying like a sissy, hit your body with a weep or, make a show sniff sniff sniff in private or in front of people.
Repentance is not committing the same sin anymore. You don't need to cry, just not doing it anymore, that is repentance.
The death of Jesus was to clean the sins you have committed and for you start obeying God the way God told you to do.
This is to say, if you were a liar, the you will lie no more. If you used to steal, then you won't commit robberies anymore, and so forth.
Even more, Jesus sent a "helper", the Holy Spirit, to guide you and assist you to obey God the way God wants to be obeyed.
In other words, you must become like Adam before his falling, before his disobedience.
Only then, when you have repented of your sins, and you live obedient to what God commands you, then you are imitating Christ, because he was obedient, so you must be obedient as well.
The words of the prophets were directed to the people as a reminder that because the father was a murderer, the son can't be sent to death because his father crimes.
But, when is about the animal to be sacrificed to pardon the sins, this is a different scenario which is not related to the words of the prophets, but that is related to repentance and sacrifice.
Then, your thoughts are dead wrong when you think that Jesus' sacrifice fits inside the words of the prophets about every sinner will pay for his own sins.
The sacrifice of Jesus fits with the sacrifices of animals as the method to obtain pardon for sins.
