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"Of" pronounced as /ɔv/ or /əv/ here?

 
 
Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 06:39 am

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one of the 19th century English workmen who destroyed laborsaving machinery that they thought would cause unemployment
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 09:01 am
@oristarA,
For the benefit of the Average Clod (like me), backward c is "ah" and upside-down e is "uh"

…at least Down Under

Here Ori we mostly say "uhv"
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 09:13 am
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

For the benefit of the Average Clod (like me), backward c is "ah" and upside-down e is "uh"

…at least Down Under

Here Ori we mostly say "uhv"


Yours is American pronunciation, not British.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 09:40 am
@oristarA,
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Yours is American pronunciation
Of course Ori, that's why I said "here", unaware your "here" there is a different "here" than my "here" here

Incidentally, there, here's a useful link

http://clas.mq.edu.au/phonetics/transcription/phonemic_transcription/phonemic_transcription.html

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JTT
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 04:55 pm
@oristarA,
It really depends on what register it is being used in, Ori.

'of' can sound like 'a'.

That's a neat turna phrase [turn of phrase]
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 08:15 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

It really depends on what register it is being used in, Ori.

'of' can sound like 'a'.

That's a neat turna phrase [turn of phrase]


Excellent!

Would you like to give me the examples when it sounds /ɔv/ or /əv/?
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2013 08:41 pm
@oristarA,
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Would you like to give me the examples when it sounds /ɔv/ or /əv/?


I gave one,

That's a neat turna phrase [turn of phrase].

The Baya Biscay. The Baya Fundy [The Bay of ---]

The topa the TV. The topa the fridge [The top of the ---]

In most day to day speech, 'of' would often be "smudged" into 'a'. If someone was giving a formal lecture, there would be a lesser tendency to "smudge".
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 08:25 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
Would you like to give me the examples when it sounds /ɔv/ or /əv/?


I gave one,

That's a neat turna phrase [turn of phrase].

The Baya Biscay. The Baya Fundy [The Bay of ---]

The topa the TV. The topa the fridge [The top of the ---]

In most day to day speech, 'of' would often be "smudged" into 'a'. If someone was giving a formal lecture, there would be a lesser tendency to "smudge".


Can we read it as "groupa people"?

Quote:
When a person or group of people (such as the members of the 1838 US Supreme Court) are said to behave in a way that displays a human attitude or attribute such as usefulness, friendliness, haughtiness, helpfulness, cruelty, kindness, condescension, comradeliness, etc to "others" then those "others" are other people.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 08:27 am
@oristarA,

/frɔm/ or /frəm/?

Context:
Notes from The Language of Science and Faith by Karl Giberson and Francis Collins
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 09:03 am
By and large, "of" is pronounced /əv/. You may find regional dialects in which it's pronounced /ɔv/, but it isn't typical.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 10:05 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
Can we read it as "groupa people"?

Quote:
When a person or group of people (such as the members of the 1838 US Supreme Court) are said to behave in a way that displays a human attitude or attribute such as usefulness, friendliness, haughtiness, helpfulness, cruelty, kindness, condescension, comradeliness, etc to "others" then those "others" are other people.


That's certainly a possibility, Ori, but again, it depends a lot on the register. When we read to ourselves we don't normally read out loud. We process the words without pronunciation.

In casual everyday speech therezalotta compression:

Pat: See that groupa people over there?

Don: Yeah. Iszat that group ya tol me about.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 10:23 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:


Don: Yeah. Iszat that group ya tol me about.


I got it as: Yeah. Is exact that group you told me about.

Am I on the right track?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 11:12 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
Don: Yeah. Iszat that group ya tol me about.



Quote:

I got it as: Yeah. Is exact that group you told me about.

Am I on the right track?


Is that that group you told me about?

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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 03:19 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:


/frɔm/ or /frəm/?

Context:
Notes from The Language of Science and Faith by Karl Giberson and Francis Collins



Well, has no one noticed this question?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 28 Apr, 2013 08:46 pm
@oristarA,
Here are some more, Ori.

1Kid coulda hadda gun (homeowner didnt know)
2Kid coulda had a bomb(see item 1 above)
3Kid coulda had a "death by cop" attitude as a real Jihadhi (see all above)
4If homeowner would have shot kid, all sources of info woulda been lost.

http://able2know.org/topic/212871-12#post-5,314,776
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