@Frank Apisa,
Baldimo wrote:Why not. You want to use tragic accidents (which are fewer then self-defense shootings)
to limit people's access to guns. Prove the case then.
Frank Apisa wrote:Right after you prove that tragic accidents are fewer than self-defense shootings.
OmSigDAVID wrote:The victim STILL has the right to fight back,
regardless of any accidents; thay have NO effect on his rights.
Frank Apisa wrote:And there is no effect on my rights to call these accidents
to everyone's attention.
I have no objection to that, Frank,
but your silence toward water and cars
shows forth
the HYPOCRISY of your argument qua
SAFETY and guns.
U just want
CRIMINALS to be safer than thay are when victims are
as well armed as thay are.
Frank Apisa is crusading for O.S.H.A. for violent criminals on-the-job!!!
Frank wants them to be
safe from the defenses of their victims on-the-job, in the streets.
Frank Apisa wrote:In any case, if all these guns make for a safer community...
why isn't the United States one of the safest places on the planet?
OmSigDAVID wrote:Because not enuf of the victims carry defensive guns.
When ALL victims of future crime are fully armed, THEN talk to us of accidents, Frank.
Frank Apisa wrote:Avoided the question, I see...as well you should, because the answer destroys your argument.
MY argument is that government has NO jurisdiction to institute gun control.
Its jurisdictional foundation is a hoax.
I further argue that
IF we do
NOT
concede a
MONOPOLY of power to violent criminals,
then their more powerful victims will be safer from them than thay woud be
if only the violent predators had power (meaning had guns).
That argument is
un-affected by any accident rates,
however Frank, I am willing to tolerate laws requiring students
to be taught gun handling safety in public schools from K thru 12.
Does that satisfy your concerns ????????
Incidentally, u r avoiding the fact that most deaths from gunfire
arise from the War on Drugs, another jurisdictional farce.
I do not belong to that milieu, which embraces almost all
of those
bloody casualties. I feel safe; very safe.
Incidentally, Frank, I have some free advice for u
upon which u need not comment if u dont wanna,
having to do with forethought:
if u do have defensive hardware
in a jurisdiction that is raping the US Constitution 's Bill of Rights,
then u O it to yourself to
THINK AHEAD.
If u used it defensively
to save the lives of your family, then
WHERE woud u stand
if u have an ugly
bloody dead thing on your bedroom floor?? Do u live in an apartment?
Elevator access?? Embarrassing to be dragging down big,
bloody dead things to dumpsters??
Awkward conversation with nabors?? Is NJ friendly to defense of your family??
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
David
