Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

Baldimo wrote:

Frank you are missing a big point. No one on a military base carries a weapon except MP's DOD and FPS. Go walk around a military base and tell me how many people on that base of a gun on them. I will save you some time, the answer is none! All weapons on a military are locked up in an Armory at the specific units AO.

Hate to tell you this but your wrong and very misinformed.

You are missing a point, Baldimo. A military installation is a FORTRESS. There are guns all over the place...and people trained to use them also.

There is no telling at any moment how many people are walking around toting guns...because some of the people may be going to the range...and MP's may have huge contingents.

A military installation is not a place to screw around with.

But there are attacks on military bases often.

Do you get it.

The availability of guns does not deter shootings.

And if you think that having every military member on base carry a loaded weapon will result in fewer shootings...I can only assume you have never been on a military base...because fights and arguments do break out...and if everyone were armed, the number of shootings would skyrocket.

If you consider the number of guns that are available at a military base though, you'd have to wonder why there are not more shootings, wouldn't you? But, they keep most of them under lock and key. They also do regular psych tests on soldiers too though.

You are not being honest Frank. Of course there are more guns on a military base then in a church. People on the military base DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE WEAPONS ON BASE, EXCEPT FOR DEPLOYMENT AND QUALIFICATION. They do not walk around on base with weapons.

This might be a more interesting conversation if you were being an honest person about what is going on. You can't compare a church and a military base any more then you could compare a police station with a child care facility.

The chances increase but your math doesn't hold up. Based on that assumption, gun violence should be on the rise in the US. Instead as gun ownership has increased in the US gun violence has gone down.

The chances increase but your math doesn't hold up. Based on that assumption, gun violence should be on the rise in the US. Instead as gun ownership has increased in the US gun violence has gone down. More guns in the US does not mean more gun violence. You are trying to draw a cause and effect that isn't supported by the #'s.

How do you explain that?

The chances increase but your math doesn't hold up. Based on that assumption, gun violence should be on the rise in the US. Instead as gun ownership has increased in the US gun violence has gone down. More guns in the US does not mean more gun violence. You are trying to draw a cause and effect that isn't supported by the #'s.

How do you explain that?

That doesn't prove anything. It just proves that the # can be false or under reported due to people's feelings.

I happen to know at least 5 people who now own guns who did not own guns 3 years ago. I contest that gun ownership is on the rise. Sure people who own guns have more guns, but first time gun ownership is on the rise. I can tell you this by the friends that I have who work in the gun training industry and the # of people who have signed up for safety classes and or basic marksmanship classes.

I happen to know at least 5 people who now own guns who did not own guns 3 years ago.