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Guns And The Laws That Govern Them

 
 
RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2015 11:16 pm
Australian comic Jim Jefferies nails it.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153722049769255
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 25 Nov, 2015 11:40 pm
@RexRed,
I posted this a way back - but the facebook comments are just awesome.

Your country has a serious oversupply of whackadoodles. My sympathies.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 26 Nov, 2015 07:59 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
I posted this a way back - but the facebook comments are just awesome.
Your country has a serious oversupply of whackadoodles. My sympathies.

You Freedom Haters sure get bitter when people prevent you from violating their civil rights.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 4 Dec, 2015 11:35 pm
Quote:
And that raises a question. If you can’t stop ideas from crossing borders—if you can’t surveil every node of every network, peer into every soul, and know in advance who’s becoming radicalized—then you have to look for some other, more material transaction to monitor or control . The most obvious such transaction is the acquisition of weaponry. In the ideal world of the National Rifle Association—a world in which guns are freely available and our sole method of regulating their use is through mental health treatment, or sometimes through criminal background checks—anyone with a clean record can buy all the guns and ammo he wants, without raising any alarms. Including Syed Farook.

I’m a skeptic of gun laws. The weapons used in San Bernardino were apparently purchased legally, under California’s relatively strict laws, and then modified illegally. Rounding up most of the guns in this country would be logistically impossible, and enacting mandatory registration would be an enormous political challenge.

But if you’re not willing to pursue some kind of gun registration or gun control, then you’re left with the psychology of the shooter. And what San Bernardino just demonstrated, in the grisliest way, is that we’re even less capable of tracking psychology than we are of tracking guns. So if you want to blame radical Islam, go right ahead. And tell us how you’d monitor the flow of radical Islam from Syria to California. And if you can’t answer that question, then ask yourself whether you love liberty so much that you’re willing to defend the right of everyone, including aspiring jihadists, to stockpile and bear unregistered arms.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/12/syed_farook_and_tashfeen_malik_may_have_been_inspired_to_kill_what_it_means.html

Given the breakdown of our government, Given how pissed off we are with our government and most of the people in it, given the number of guns in this country, given that the Supreme Court is already on very shaky ground with the people and that if they went against the people here there would be riots across this country and this government would be assassinated......given all that, we are not doing to do any amount of gun control that would matter. And if we did they would buy all they want on the black market. I am really getting sick of these leftists who are clearly allergic to reality.

Anyways, the only thing to do is to solve the violence problem the NRA way, every CITIZEN who wants to be armed and is not a mental case gets armed. Idealy with a government subsidy, let citizens buy them at cost from the Army maybe. Sure a lot of people will depart for whatever world lays in the next journey, if there's one, by gun. Easy access to a gun is damn near a human right so that we dont get stuck on the allegedly rapidly dying planet one more day than we have to be. The main point is lots of good people armed and trained will end the scourge of bad people with guns ruining our day. There is no way this does not work.

The answer is clear.

Let's go.
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2015 09:29 am
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/11209589_1005268066208186_600281257568292161_n.jpg?oh=c8b4bf25198b467bc6d8bef1f35c82e8&oe=56DD94A3
Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2015 10:09 am
http://observer.com/2015/12/journalist-exposes-lawmakers-who-received-nra-donations-becomes-twitter-sensation/

Journalist Exposes Lawmakers Who Received NRA Donations

The mass shooting at a social services center in San Bernardino, California yesterday prompted the usual flurry of sympathetic tweets from presidential candidates and congressmen offering thoughts and prayers for the victims. But one journalist decided to look at NRA political donations to see if there was a correlation between continued mass shootings and political inaction.

Last night, Igor Volsky, a contributing editor and director of video at ThinkProgress, used his Twitter feed to publicize the names of lawmakers who had received money from the NRA. He juxtaposed this information with their “thoughts and prayers” tweets and the NRA’s financial information:

https://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/capture-71.png?w=635

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Mr. Volsky told the Observer in an email that he got information about donations to individual candidates from OpenSecrets, a campaign contribution data site. Cumulative numbers for the NRA came from the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

As for why he publicized the information after this shooting in particular, Mr. Volsky said he was simply fed up with the hypocrisy of certain politicians.

“I’m sick and tired of lawmakers who oppose gun safety measures getting away with sympathy tweets—which they send after every publicized mass shooting—and pretending that ‘thinking’ and ‘praying’ on these problems will actually solve them,” Mr. Volsky said.

Mr. Volsky wasn’t the only one who blew the whistle on lawmakers’ hypocrisy—today’s New York Daily News cover, which features a group of “thoughts and prayers” tweets along with the caption “God Isn’t Fixing This,” has provoked strong reactions, both positive and negative, on social media.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2015 10:48 am
@Suttle Tea,
Mass shooting? Don't you mean Islamisc terrorism? I love the word expose. It's public information and you guys all know GOP candidates who support guns right get money from the NRA. Good for them! They need to continue to support our Constitutional right to own firearms because people like you and those on the left will deny us those rights because you are scared little kids.
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2015 08:11 pm
https://media.giphy.com/media/L1TlgPX99w892/giphy.gif

We need this technology.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2015 07:43 am
@Suttle Tea,
while i applaud calling out the owning of politicians by lobby groups I am confused by the last tweet that refers to donations in 2016 - how did they figure that out?
Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2015 09:37 am
@hingehead,
It's got to be a typo.
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2015 09:39 am
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12141575_10153064902532016_8450251516409543787_n.png?oh=6a73f668178fc77b2ac5c7b237df4604&oe=56DF91CC
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2015 09:54 am
@Suttle Tea,
Quote:
http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/11209589_1005268066208186_600281257568292161_n.jpg?oh=c8b4bf25198b467bc6d8bef1f35c82e8&oe=56DD94A3

The statistical claims in this graphic are, of course, all lies.

(I know everyone here already knows this, but it is always better when lies are denounced.)
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2015 09:56 am
@Suttle Tea,
Quote:
http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12141575_10153064902532016_8450251516409543787_n.png?oh=6a73f668178fc77b2ac5c7b237df4604&oe=56DF91CC

More lies.
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Tue 8 Dec, 2015 06:06 pm
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12308384_1210354792325417_5216364201747959725_n.jpg?oh=e6a307e6d39cd046e5b613de3ac7dbae&oe=56E83870
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 8 Dec, 2015 06:14 pm
@Suttle Tea,
Suttle Tea wrote:
http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12308384_1210354792325417_5216364201747959725_n.jpg?oh=e6a307e6d39cd046e5b613de3ac7dbae&oe=56E83870

Why do Liberals hate our freedom so much?

Sad
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2015 07:49 pm
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12299290_912737305507433_6544821843434944418_n.jpg?oh=6eb3c72134f7e764e90bc727ed2dbe2b&oe=57214193
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2015 09:15 pm
@Suttle Tea,
Suttle Tea wrote:

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/11209589_1005268066208186_600281257568292161_n.jpg?oh=c8b4bf25198b467bc6d8bef1f35c82e8&oe=56DD94A3


I keep my guns in my home because they would get rusty and stolen if I left them outside.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 10 Dec, 2015 11:06 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

I posted this a way back - but the facebook comments are just awesome.

Your country has a serious oversupply of whackadoodles. My sympathies.


Oh God that's true. Could you do us Yanks a solid? How about you take Rupert back,I'm begging, please.
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Suttle Tea
 
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Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2015 05:56 am
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12313694_1240292885997724_423160542544687936_n.jpg?oh=699ccba19cc107b347a9d08712b9a055&oe=571D2495
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 11 Dec, 2015 11:26 am
@Suttle Tea,
We want drug testing for social welfare programs because they are getting and spending taxpayer money. It isn't their money they are wasting.

On the other side of the debate, I'm spending my own money to purchase a gun and not yours. There are already background checks so it isn't a violation of rights or privacy. It's already to law.

What other logical fallacy are you going to bring up next?
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