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Is Atheism More Likely To Be True Than Deism?

 
 
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2013 08:16 pm
@Setanta,
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That's right, you posted bullshit, your typical hateful bullshit about atheists, and i challenged you. You can't handle that.

Atheism is not a belief. Nor is it a rejection. That's just your idiot word game. You really think you're clever, don't you?

How could I possibly have been challenged by something that is neither a belief nor rejection?

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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jun, 2013 08:25 pm
@Setanta,
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You haven't dealt with a goddamned thing. I challenged your usual sweeping generalizations about atheists,and you provided no evidence for your hateful rant.

How could one provide proof for neither a belief nor rejection? Would it be by doing nothing?

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If you can't keep track of your rants, don't expect me to do it for you.

Straw man. I only rant about the idiot theists who show up here, or the expressed beliefs of theists. I don't assign allegations of beliefs to theists and then rant at them for that. That's what you do with atheists, though.

You're the most hateful son of a bitch i've ever met who has the gall to call himself a christian.

Your rant about a theist...which you claimed you did not do...but I had done about atheists, while claiming atheism is neither a belief nor rejection...which I did not say that I was incapable of keeping...
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 02:45 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
A typically incoherent response. I said i only rant about the idiot theists who show up here, and that includes you. You, however, are willing to make sweeping generalizations about atheists, as though they all think alike. As usual, you provide no evidence for your claims about atheists.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 03:32 am
@Setanta,
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I don't assign allegations of beliefs to theists and then rant at them for that. That's what you do with atheists, though.

You're the most hateful son of a bitch i've ever met who has the gall to call himself a christian.

There is nothing incoherent about that...it is black and white...it is called selective denial...Or you are being a troll once more...

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You, however, are willing to make sweeping generalizations about atheists, as though they all think alike. As usual, you provide no evidence for your claims about atheists.

Which atheists would those be? The ones who are not that strong such as yourself, who neither believe nor reject?

Or the atheists who are as in A as in a denial?

If it is the first, my questions above still stand...In what way am I making a sweeping generalization about you?, And how have I backed down from your challenge?

If it is the latter, then since they deny, I refuse to accept their denial...and my opposition is to explain my beliefs...and that is the freedom I have to do so...in the same exact ways they explain how they see my beliefs as incorrect, because they deny them...so they are still believing...if you do not consider yourself the latter, as you have stated...then how does it concern you? And how have I backed down from your challenge, once again?

But I deny that you will actually understand what I am saying...

Do you mean you would like me to supply empirical evidence to validate the beliefs I have about atheists who are A-theists, as in a denial? I will do no such thing, and it is on them if they would like to challenge what I am saying to them in response, if they can not reasonably deduct why they believe I am incorrect, or reject what I believe...Just like I would not ask them to show me empirical evidence to explain to me why they deny my beliefs...because their "proof" would be subjective to them...just like I understand my beliefs are to I...

Just because you lack the thinking skills required to understand, makes no one incoherent...

It makes you ignorant, in a not knowing way...
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 03:40 am
@Setanta,
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A typically incoherent response. I said i only rant about the idiot theists who show up here, and that includes you. You, however, are willing to make sweeping generalizations about atheists, as though they all think alike. As usual, you provide no evidence for your claims about atheists.

BTW...what you claim you do to theists here, is the same thing you claim I do to atheists here...

Why not stop peddling nonsense about how I should provide evidence?...If you personally are not willing to provide evidence for me

You have never provided evidence for me...though you flipped it around as to why you see no reason you or anyone else should...So I see no reason to do so for you...And once again, since you neither believe nor reject...it is a sweeping generalization of you to purport that any other atheist (who you have repeatedly said is very different, since it is neither a belief nor a rejection) may not be looking for the evidence that you are asking me to provide...but once again, I doubt you understand this...because you are ignorant...
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 04:36 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
No, it's not the same thing, and you show your inability to think clearly when you say that. I don't make sweeping generalizations about all theists. You, however, do make sweeping generalizations about all atheists. As long as you do that, i'm going to call bullshit. I didn't "flip" anything. When you were incoherently ranting at Thomas about proof, i pointed out that you had made a sweeping generalization about atheists, for which you provided no evidence.

You truly are an idiot.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 04:54 am
@Setanta,
Tough...I will have no part in trying to convince anyone of anything other than what they freely believe, do not, reject, neither, or would like look to find evidence for themselves to convince themselves of any or all of the above...It is not my job to convince anyone of anything other than their own thinking...

I have my own beliefs, and rejections...and I know and understand why I do...and I do not want anyone else to ever try to convince me of anything that is not my own thinking...So I would never try to convince someone to think something that is not their own thinking...

Someone can hear what I have to say and either believe it, reject it, deny it, or be unsure about it...and go looking for evidence to convince themselves...

Just like I have my own personal beliefs...in which I do all of those things...and I am not interested in anyone else trying to convince me of anything other that what I chose to believe, reject, deny...and go looking for evidence of...

And if anyone else is looking for me to personally influence their own thinking in any such way, then they are mistaken, because it is never going to happen...

And I also would never expect them to try to convince me of anything, or validate anything for my own personal approval...

And they never have to do so...plain and simple...

What anyone else thinks, believes, denies, rejects, doubts, questions, is uncertain about...is their own free mind...and they are not obligated to justify anything for my own approval...

Everyone must find who they are...and why...and it is on them to do so...

If someone would like to ask me something they do not understand...then they can if they freely wish to do so...and if I have anything I would freely like to ask someone, so that I can understand them...or their positions...then if I ask them, they can give me their perspectives if they wish to do so...and they do not have to, if they do not want too...

I do not care if you think I made a sweeping generalization to Thomas, because it is not about you...if Thomas says that he think I had...I will either explain to him how I think I have not...or apologize if I think I had...

And I do not care if you think I make generalizations to atheists in general...because I think that you make them to theists...and atheists as well...So I don't believe you have merit...or any ground to stand upon...and I think you are a hypocrite...
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 05:00 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
The bottom line is that you routinely make sweeping generalizations about atheists, for which you provide no evidence. When you do, if i see it, i will call bullshit. Get over it.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 05:06 am
@Setanta,
Good for you...I remember you saying this yesterday, so I remember it today...and every time that you freely do so, and I believe you are being a hypocrite...as in saying you just do not care, do not think that anyone is that important...or others do not know what they are talking about...then be prepared for war, if you come to battle...because I believe that you are lying about every single one of those claims...and I won't let you personally disrespect me...regardless, if you do not think that you are...If I think that you are...I will not allow it to happen...get over it...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 05:16 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
So you "believe" that i am lying about you having made a sweeping generalization about atheists? (That's the only claim i've made.)

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

How could it possibly be?

If atheism is actually a belief...atheism can not be proven just like a God in theism's can not...

If it is not a belief, but a rejection...Then it does not have anything to do with what "atheism" itself is or stands for...but the very things atheists, and atheism attempts to prove...Which are the notions themselves that atheists are actually believing or rejecting...upon demonstrating its validity, or rejecting these notions are valid...

If they reject any Gods exist...then unless they can demonstrate this with evidence itself...then they reject any Gods exist, and you can not reject anything more than already rejecting something...because the belief is not there...and there is nothing left to reject...

They may claim to be skeptics, but there does not seem to be anything that they reject more than any potential Gods...In fact, when it comes to other skeptical claims...they seem to act very quickly to try to explain why they believe the skeptical notion at hand is either valid or not...with evidence that they ask theists for about God(s)...


You have made no distinctions, so you are inferentially speaking about all atheists. That is not a lie, this is what you have written, to which i objected. You just make yourself look more and more like an idiot.

Go to war ? ! ? ! ? Oh man, you crack me up. Help yourself, Hero.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 05:18 am
By the way, that post i quoted is another tour de force in incoherence--the only thing you're good at.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 04:18 pm
@Setanta,
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So you "believe" that i am lying about you having made a sweeping generalization about atheists? (That's the only claim i've made

No...you are entitled to your own views...I do not agree...because I do not have too...but your views are your own...and I respect that...

No...I believe you are a liar in claiming you do not care...no one is that important...or others do not know what they are talking about...I do not think you can know if you personally think someone has made a sweeping generalization, unless you believe or reject they have...nor do I think that someone would feel compelled to call "bullshit" every time they subjectively believe it is happening...unless they believe or reject so...not neither...prove me wrong using neither, if you can...if you can not, or will not...then I deny that it has happened...since you will not explain to me why and how you personally think it has...because you believe it, or reject it...So I can explain why and how I personally think it has not...to you...who has made this claim to me...because I believe it, or reject it...or chose to stop doing it before you...because I believe it, or reject it...but if you are going to play the ignorance card...I have no authority to stop doing anything that you are not convicted in explaining to me is incorrect...and why...because I have no way to judge how truthful, or factual your claim actually is...So I can only assume you are trolling or baiting...because it is just a big circle in neither believing nor rejecting...which I am not obligated to do...and have no desire to engage in...
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 07:49 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent it makes you sound like a escape from a mental asylum. Hang on!! perhaps you are.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 07:56 pm
@tenderfoot,
tenderfoot wrote:

Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent it makes you sound like a escape from a mental asylum. Hang on!! perhaps you are.


That's what I've suspected all along.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 09:53 pm
Coming from one who can't even comprehend my name has nothing to do with a shovel, and can't spell Setanta's name correctly...

And another who gobbles down that bullshit about how he does not suffer fools gladly...

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 10:00 pm
@tenderfoot,
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Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent it makes you sound like a escape from a mental asylum. Hang on!! perhaps you are.

I wouldn't know why you believe this, since I have not...but it sure sounds like you both believe you know what it feels like to escape from one...So what did it feel like to escape from one? I am interested in learning, or would like to point out your bullshit bait...

Have you? Or are you trolling? 2 Cents
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 10:30 pm
@tenderfoot,
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Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent

Didn't you ask me to go with you to create our own new God? What did you mean by that?
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jun, 2013 11:14 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

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Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent

Didn't you ask me to go with you to create our own new God? What did you mean by that?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jun, 2013 12:15 am
@tenderfoot,
tenderfoot wrote:
Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent

Didn't you ask me to go with you to create our own new God? What did you mean by that?

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Are you actually willing to provide me with a belief about atheism?.

tenderfoot wrote:
Why ask? you're one yourself.. by the way I hear there's a old God who's a Goddess wana come and make her our God? could be more interesting than this Latest one you got, and the one I just got rid of.

http://able2know.org/topic/62055-390#post-5296506



Would you actually like to take the time to answer my question this time? Would you like to explain why you believe I am incoherent? Would you like to explain what a mental asylum is actually like? Or would you like to explain why you are trolling?
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jun, 2013 12:24 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

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Well **** shovel.. been following your replies to Santana, not one has made any sense.. they are so incoherent

Didn't you ask me to go with you to create our own new God? What did you mean by that?

Glad you recognize your name now... Yep! I'm the one .. You ready to go in to the creation game.. all you need is a big lump of belief and a bigger lump of faith and it's there.
 

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