They need to make better "smoke" bombs that don't start fires when they are used. Also, can't they put some type of sleeping gas in the smoke bomb? There must be a better way of getting a lone nutcase out of a cabin without risking cops lives or spending millions on missile guided weaponry.
Sorry setting fires is just what the police at times wished to do as in the Dorner case and when I saw that they had him corner in a wooden building I knew at once that it would be set on fire.
Lot of other examples of heavily armed standoffs over the decades where the tear gas just happen to set the buildings on fired.
Sorry setting fires is just what the police at times wished to do as in the Dorner case and when I saw that they had him corner in a wooden building I knew at once that it would be set on fire.
How might this be different than Nazi Germany or any totalitarian state? You reveal much about your own depravity, Bill.
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Thu 14 Feb, 2013 07:12 am
@rosborne979,
They used pyrotechnic tear gas grenades known as 'burners'.
I see you have a deep and abiding respect for the rule of law, E.
Just conducting a thought experiment here. What's the fundamental moral or legal difference between using a drone and some other technique? Your inputs would be interesting since you tend to look at things through a different lens than most. What do you think? Persude me. Is there a legal requirement to try to take this guy alive? How about a moral one? How does it change if he is holed up and contained versus shooting up a neighborhood while in a running battle with police? My mind is not made up so you have a rare A2K opportunity to actually shift someone's point of view. My initial thoughts are in the earlier post.
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Thu 14 Feb, 2013 08:23 am
@BillRM,
Nope, they set back and watched it burn, fall in on itself and burn out.
The terrain didn't allow for large mechanized hardware to get
close without felling some large trees and that didn't happen.
A SWAT team surrounded the cabin and used an armored vehicle to break out its windows, The Associated Press reported. The officers then pumped a gas into the cabin and blasted a message over a loudspeaker: “Surrender or come out.”
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The armored vehicle ripped down each of the cabin's four walls.
There is no question about an armored car being on the scene and rolling up close to the building, but I see nothing that suggests it was used to push or
tear the walls of the cabin down.
Come on once more the reported behavior of their armor car or whatever in major newspapers had not be challenge to date by the police departments involved.
As I said if the law enforcement agencies involved at any level of government had any problem with the reporting they had not made that fact known as yet so I see no reason to question it until and if they do so.
Burning people out of shelters is hardly unknown by law enforcement with or without armor or in the one case by dropping a bomb from a helicopter.
