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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:21 pm
@ehBeth,
any part of calamari has blood thinning properties. I learnt this last year when, one day after a sumptuous meal of calamari naughty bits in a garlic sauce, I hadda visit a hospital to top bleeding from a cut.
I also take coumdin nd try to keep my clot factor (INS value) between 2 an 3. It was almost 5 theday after the squiddy bits. Fortuntely, I metbolize quickly or eseI woulda hve hd to tke vitmin K shots in the groin.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:23 pm
a bump
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:23 pm
@BillW,
onion rings and squid tentacles?

ok, I'm in


Wassau! a double order of squid tentacles and a large order of onion rings please. I could also stand some cucumber salad. Soooooooo refreshing on a day like today.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:25 pm
bump dammit
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:29 pm
@farmerman,
No squid for the farmerman. What can we order for you from the dim sum menu?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 05:41 pm
@farmerman,
Gah.

So, to take coumadin one needs to be well up on data. I knew that, but maybe not just how well up on data, ay yi yi.

Hang in there, farmer.

This is another instance (here comes the soap box) of where people with better means have better access to information - not always, but as a generalization.
I'll forgo a rant about paywalls, much less access to computers at all.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:01 pm
@ehBeth,
lemon pepper shrimp. Its my GO TO dish at PF Changs
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:03 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:
paywalls
Sometimes I hve trubble keeping up with you osso. Whats a pywall?
I use payPAL, zat what you mean?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 06:59 pm
@farmerman,
Many, and going towards most, newspapers now have paywalls. The New York Times gives anyone who can connect online ten articles a month (I was used to reading upwards of two hundred) and LA Times give you 15, as of now. I save those for Jonathan Gold and Russ Parsons articles. My last hometown of something like 30,000 population's quite miserable newspaper won't let me click on more than 5x a month.

I see the newspapers' dilemma, but the result is that the struggling ordinary people are shut out, unless they are quite internet savvy.

This happens in many ways, including who can afford all the new phone access, and similar concerns. Eventually, discreet populations will be revisited in new ways.

Lots of people won't be able to read everything out there about coumadin.
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:20 pm
@spendius,
Quote:


This is an establishment for ladies Bill.


and, your point is? Please, stay away and leave all the ladies to me! Lola and I go way back - well, actually not that far back cause she is soooooo young Wink
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:31 pm
@BillW,
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CzLtwcEnPXQ/UQFiXOalLpI/AAAAAAAAwt0/KzBasi_M0VM/s1600/1.jpeg
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:36 pm
@ehBeth,
You were taking pictures at the last southwestern A2K meet up. I'm a dead man if the Ruskis ID me from the back Shocked
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 07:59 pm
@BillW,
I went by the northeast edge of the Moore tornado this morning. The tornado had thinned down by then (maybe 1/4 mile wide), and it was in the hills; so, it wasn't to bad visually. A couple miles further east, it had roped out. The big thing was the traffic. I think all the Interstate traffic was being sent in this direction and every section line had a stop sign at it. I jumped over to the lake road (Lake Stanley Draper) and had zero traffic.

Going home I went by the southwest edge after it had crossed the Canadian River. Total devastation - I saw a number of houses that had been completely sucked off of their foundation. This area is rural, large neighborhoods don't start for another couple of miles in both directions (north and east) - but, the destruction was amazing. The path here was about 1/2 to 3/4 mile wide and I went a mile along its path (east). It looked like they had lined about 100-200 bulldozers side-by-side and sent them east-north-east with blades, balls to the walls. Just frecking terrible.

Distance between the two areas? 10+ miles
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:01 pm
@BillW,
I can't imagine what it's like to see that, let alone be in it.

We've had ice storms with pretty significant damage but they seem to come on much more gradually.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:29 pm
All this talk of squid. Well, I might as well try some, as long as it's mixed with other things in my Singapore Chow Mei Fun.
http://cdn.biggestmenu.com/00/00/32/e79cdba8f210f0b2_m.jpg
Singapore style rice noodles--there's shrimp, squid, eggs, julienned ham, bean sprouts all stir fried with the rice noodles. And, it's good. Very comforting after hearing that report of the tornado damage.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:36 pm
@BillW,
When I saw pix f that school that was obliterated it seemed that the school did NOT have a storm cellar or some sort of sub basement for tornados. I thought that all public bldgs in the "alley" had to hve em.
Yers ago when I was in grad school,I used to work in Ada Ok for a time and our govt bldg had a bigass storm basement.

These 3/4 mi wide F4's and F 5's appear to be getting more numerous. I can recall, as a kid, when a really bad one would occur only a few times in my pre teen years and now, they occur one or two each year.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 08:42 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:
I saw a number of houses that had been completely sucked off of their foundation.


I tend to think of all this when I read about tornadoes, and the destruction, so it is poor form to ask, but I wonder, strongly, about building codes. Did those houses have steel connectors to the foundations? It may take more than steel connectors - and to what kind of foundations, since the forces are so strong, but has anyone been looking to how to protect houses besides safe rooms?

This doesn't mean that I'm not sympathetic; I live in a dimwit duplex myself.

I'm interested in the structural engineering possibilities and impossibilities.
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 09:54 pm
@ossobuco,
This is a perfectly good question, actually - the number one question today. As F4 and F5 tornados are on the rise - these are the devastating tornados. Like the increase in earthquake building, engineers are looking at F5 tornado building codes. They are looking at putting concrete caps on buildings that have been sealed to the concrete walls. But, to what cost?

BillW
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 10:13 pm
@farmerman,
""We've got a high water table and red clay that expands and contracts depending on how much moisture there is in the soil," Keller says. "That expansion and contraction causes cracks in basement wall, and cracks mean leaks."

"I've always been told our soil is not good for basements," says Russell Benson, an Oklahoma City real estate agent on Trulia, in response to a prospective buyer asking why basements were so rare in Oklahoma. "I have sold a few older homes that had basements, but they were never in that great of shape."

"Red clay is susceptible to water and heat. It moves; it causes cracks," he says. "So, you're going to need pumping systems and backup power to run the pumps because eventually the water's going to get in."

"For most homeowners, it just doesn't make sense, moneywise," he says."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/21/185857916/why-oklahomans-dont-like-basements

But, this article also lists fallacies to these arguments.

The local meteorologist were telling everybody, "this thing is to big, if you can not get under ground, get out - leave the area of the tornado." But you gotta have a car and you gotta know how and where to do it. Don't get in a car and get stymied in traffic. Also, don't move into the path of the tornado, where it may change direction to or where it has been.



farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 May, 2013 11:09 pm
@BillW,
I think Kelleris not acting like a geologist. (Id take this as a challenge to determine how to (economically) install basements in this environment) At the least of which would be vertical porous channels that allow some of the shifting and dessication energy to be dissipate.
We design basements in all kinds of bad conditions (even beaches). The new interlocking concrete panels with exterior buttresses abd channel pipes are quite common in areas with moving soils.
I think that towns in he alley need to have several designated tornado cellars and schools should certainly require em. Those poor kids were defenseless. Its really sad that noone challenges that belief and makes it safer by several design methods

(In a normal small house Id look at even burying a large bitumen coated septic tank )with a slightly angled entryway so a storm door could be fashioned. That way the family could be at least safe .
Dmn sorry to hear this story like every spring and late summer each year
 

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