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Lola at the Coffee House

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:01 am
@spendius,
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Have you got a lead for it

Not yet. He's a little too young, and too hyper, and too small, to start training him with a collar and lead just yet, I don't want to risk injuring him. When we're ready for housebreaking, and I start taking him outside for that, I will get a harness and lead.
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I like cats and dogs frighten cats and sometimes kill them so I hate dogs...

I like cats too. And I've also owned cats, although I don't have one right now. And my cats and dogs got along very well with each other and enjoyed each other's company.
You're just trying to press the buttons of all the dog lovers here.
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I get the impression you like the idea of a lead and obedience training.

So do most responsible dog owners--that's what helps to keep dogs from doing the things--like biting and even killing--that you dislike about them. Bad owners create badly behaved dogs.


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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:25 am
@spendius,
http://www.sopwithproductions.com/cell_images/sl_10.jpg
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:31 am
@firefly,
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I can't believe you just said that, and without following it with a dig, or insult, or snide comment.

I have only ever had one problem with you....which is that you get so focused on winning an argument that you sink to lies and rhetorical trickery. But I have not seen you do it in months and I dont believe in carrying grudges. Try the fried chicken Benedict, it is to die for.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:40 am
Turn.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:56 am
@hawkeye10,
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Try the fried chicken Benedict, it is to die for.

Very interesting. I've had Eggs Benedict before, but never Fried Chicken Benedict.
http://s3-media1.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/rTWuk-JeyVBzBhvdTKSMlA/l.jpg
Thanks for the suggestion, Hawkeye. It was very good.
Lola
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:04 pm
@spendius,
It's true, spendi. I don't like fake happiness or smiling. And I do like a good serious discussion with opposing views expressed. But I don't get the idea that people in the cafe are faking it.

I also like cats, but I don't dislike dogs. I think dogs are fun, but they are a lot more work than cats. My cat is an excellent bed companion. She loves me, which is nice.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:08 pm
@firefly,
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Thanks for the suggestion, Hawkeye. It was very good.


I was shocked too that this is a good combo...I first saw it at Hotel 50 in Portland in January. I am very impressed that this coffee house offers it...how cutting edge they are!
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vonny
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:19 pm
@firefly,
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Don't get me started, unless you want to hear me go on, and on, and on, about how cute, adorable, sweet, loving, playful, and brilliant he is.

Nothing wrong with that, ff. Puppies aren't puppies for very long, alas, so it's important to capture every moment - on film, on paper, by word of mouth - can't get enough of puppy stories personally!

Toby's a good name - I only know one, a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, and he's a macho little chap with the face of an angel!

Take no notice of Spendius and his tales of doom and gloom - dogs in the UK don't usually make a habit of going round killing people! It happens - a bad owner, a worrying breed, several dogs in a house forming a pack - recipe for tragedy, but it's rare. As for cats - well I love them and have had cats and dogs quite happily dwelling together.

Good luck with your little Toby - looking forward to lots of photos!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:24 pm
I once did work inside a house that featured a pack of trained Dobermans. Police officer's. I had already learned how they trapped a meter reader in the back yard for some hours, when the woman of the housed directed me to fetch something out of the garage. When I opened the door, the pack crowded in ahead of me. That was when I lost my nerve and went back without entering. I believe it was five dogs, but no longer know for certain.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Firefly is right Shocked


I allow both my hands to be tied behind my back hawk. I have no need to rely on this quote but it makes the point more delicately than I can.

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Mr. John Knightley was a tall, gentleman-like, and very clever man; rising in his profession, domestic, and respectable in his private character; but with reserved manners which prevented his being generally pleasing; and capable of being sometimes out of humour. He was not an ill-tempered man, not so often unreasonably cross as to deserve such a reproach; but his temper was not his great perfection; and, indeed, with such a worshipping wife, it was hardly possible that any natural defects in it should not be increased. The extreme sweetness of her temper must hurt his.


It is difficult to talk of the psychology of pet dog ownership just as it is the psychology of gun ownership. It can become more than heated.

I don't mind allowing ff the run of the stage. She has a way with words which I find amusing.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:18 pm
@edgarblythe,
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I once did work inside a house that featured a pack of trained Dobermans. Police officer's. I had already learned how they trapped a meter reader in the back yard for some hours...


Those wouldn't be my idea of well trained dogs, Edgar. They shouldn't be randomly intimidating everyone who comes to the house, and the owners, knowing how their dogs act, should have made sure they were supervising them, and controlling them, when workmen were around.

In response to a burglary, when the family was at home sleeping, a friend of mine bought a trained guard dog. At the time, she had two young children and I asked her whether she wasn't afraid to have a trained attack dog near her children. She said, "Not at all," and went on to explain that the dog was very well socialized, and not at all overly aggressive by nature, he had simply been trained, and well trained, by a professional dog trainer, to attack only in response to certain commands, and only when those commands were given by her or her husband (and the dog's original trainer). And the dog never did anything remotely aggressive or intimidating to anyone in the family, or anyone who entered the home, he acted like a normal loving pet, but an especially well behaved one. His size and appearance alone would have given an intruder pause about breaking into that house, and, fortunately, he was able to live out his days as a happy family member who never had to be commanded to attack a burglar.

People who like dogs who act aggressively, of their own initiative, are asking for trouble. If you want a guard dog, or a dog for security, you have to be sure you're able to control that dog at all times--that the dog is trained. And, if you have a pet with aggressive tendencies, you'd have to be crazy not to get professional help to get those under control if you can't do that on your own.

Princess Anne seems to be known for her badly behaved aggressive dogs--one of her dogs even killed one of the Queen's dogs. She's not a responsible dog owner.





spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:35 pm
@spendius,
I have found myself in an interesting predicament.

I visit the household goods auction every viewing day to look for a few items I can use. One of the items is a job-lot of plates suitable for those dishes that leave the plate in a condition that is a ball-ache to wash up. Grilled cheddar cheese with onions in milk for example. French pancakes.

At long last just such at item appeared. 40 soup plates and 40 shallow cereal bowls. Perfect for throwing away after use if they came cheaply. I didn't examine them for obvious reasons. I left a bid of £20 at the desk for the sale on the day after and left. Yesterday I was sent a message that I had got them for £15.

On bringing them home it turned out they were all matching Royal Doulton bone china so I did a little Googling and discovered that one of these plates had a $40 price tag in the US. They are all minters.

Does the team think I should use such plates for the job I had bought them for?

vonny
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:39 pm
@spendius,
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Does the team think I should use such plates for the job I had bought them for?


What would Mr. John Knightley do in such a situation, Spendius!!!
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:45 pm
@firefly,
I'm very skeptical about this "good guard dog" stuff. Years ago a friend of my father's had a big vicious-looking Doberman pinscher, ostensibly trained as an attack dog. Couple of times I saw Neguss, he sure scared me. One night my father's friend went out, leaving the dog to guard the house. He came home to find his home had been burglarized and the Doberman was half dead, whimpering in a corner. He'd been beaten senseless by the burglars who had used nothing more lethal than a simple wood and wire clothes hanger from the hall closet.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:57 pm
@vonny,
He is a character created by a lady writer so there is no telling what he might have done. I imagine such a character would never have given a thought to any washing-up difficulties, as I had done.

And if a plate used to prepare his meals had taken half an hour of elbow grease with a scourer to clean I don't suppose that would have bothered him even if he had considered the matter. £5 a year was the average wage for a scullery wench at the time Ms Austen was writing about people with twenty thousand a year being in need of a wife.

Actions speak louder than words no matter how silky smooth they are.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 02:00 pm
@spendius,
Why anybody at that time on twenty thousand a year would be in need of a wife is a mystery to me.
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vonny
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 02:02 pm
@spendius,
Buy a dishwasher, get married, or hire someone!
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 04:05 pm
@firefly,
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You might be able to omit, or reduce, the kidney beans by substituting oat bran for them--that, particularly with the brown rice, would add fiber and help to reduce blood sugar, and it wouldn't be so gas producing. I always added oat bran to my dog's loaf.

Have you checked out some of the holistic dog foods? Those weren't around when I had my diabetic dog, but the ingredients in those would seem to be very good for a dog with diabetes, and quite similar to what you are preparing for your Kia. When I had my diabetic dog, the only commercial option was a prescription diet she absolutely refused to eat. Had the holistic commercial foods been around, I definitely would have given them a try with her. I've got my new puppy on the holistic food because I'm really impressed with it.


Well that comes as a nice surprise Wink Someone else, been through the diabetic dog life... It's worth it though huh.... I thought the kidney beans were a way of making her feel full longer, though I do recall reading about oat bran. I haven't checked out holistic dog food, I was given a variety of ideas from a Vet specialising in diabetic dogs. We just couldn't get the measurements right at first with her insulin. She would be we think around 10 now we think, she's gained a shirt load of energy the past few months but also, thinner, muscle loss I guess, which is scary... Anyways.. Same, she refused the commercial stuff, and last month I started adding a tad of salt as it appeared she was short on sodium.. Tough huh. Can you send me your recipe? Via Pm or something... I'd love to try to make a meat/veg loaf, sounds so much easier. Ruby eats the same food so we are making like two huge pans of it every 4 days............. Thanks FF ... Wink
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 04:05 pm
@spendius,

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Does the team think I should use such plates for the job I had bought them for?


No. Flog them and buy a few packets of paper plates. You can burn these, you don't have to landfill them.

But what's wrong with doing a little washing-up?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 04:08 pm
@firefly,
What was Charlie Brown's Dog called again?

Cute picture....
 

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