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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2003 10:48 pm
I consider my gateway drug nicotine. It was my first - started in about 2nd grade. Today, this is consider one of the most highly addictive drugs there is, right up there with heroine.
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Booman
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2003 10:50 pm
BPB,...Disagree with what?.....You think I don't love drugs? I didn't do them for 40 years because I hated them. I went into recovery because I can't control myself.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2003 10:58 pm
I never had any problems with them either! Right.
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Booman
 
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Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2003 11:03 pm
Here's a post, I tried earlier, but my PC froze-up:

...Speaking of "more potent drugs", Cigarettes, kill 3 times as many people as Alcohol and murder. Meanwhile, Alcohol kills more people than Heroin, cocaine, marijuana,and handguns, put together.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2003 12:38 am
BillW and Booman<

I was a heavy cigarette smoker for more than 20 years. It's been 21 years since I went "cold turkey" and gave up the smokes.

My brain still, however, craves a nicotine high. I honestly believe that drinking one drink at this point in my recovery would not send me back out. (I will not try the one drink today, of course.)

However, were I to smoke just one cigarette, I know I'd be immediately hooked by the nicotine and would have to fork out the $20+ it now takes to buy a carton. I'm not going to do this either because I have, here in my golden years, developed some health problems directly related to smoking. And I haven't had a cigarette in 21 years, and yet my health has still suffered due to my smoking career.
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BillW
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2003 09:11 am
boo, a stat I often like to point out - much less the cost, put cost to those stats and it is phenominal. Then look at the cost to society for pot - this stat is even more phenominal, while the leaders in their wisdom sit smoking their cigars and drinking their martinis. Oh, don't get me started.

williamhenry - agreed, agreed, agreed - but, like you, ain't into testing. Left that to my youth! Smile
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Booman
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2003 03:23 pm
Speaking of cost..... 20+ Shocked In New york, that's almost enough for three packs.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2003 12:11 am
Booman<

Just about everything known to man-and-womankind is much more expensive in New York.

In my younger days of drunkeness, I lived in NYC for awhile. An evening's binge in a single's bar certainly was expensive. I can only imagine how expensive it is to live there now.

If I really stopped to guesstimate the amount of money I have spent on booze, cigarettes, traffic citations, and wrecked cars, I suppose I'd have my first million by now.

I have learned in AA, however, that things like serenity are much more important than money.
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2003 12:28 am
People have questioned my sanity, for doing things like buying an old record album for 50, or 75 dollars. I tell them, " this will give me pleasure for years, I've blown hundreds in one night on drugs."
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2003 11:27 am
williamhenry wrote:
I have learned in AA, however, that things like serenity are much more important than money.


I accepted serenity into my life, later in my sobriety I learned that was good cause I wasn't meant to ever have money in my life Smile
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Booman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2003 12:05 pm
That's the one consistent thing in my life, whether active ,or in recovery. I HATE MONEY! As soon as I get it , I'm trying to spend it. I love making it, and I love spending it. I always do my part to keep the economy flowing. Cool
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BillW
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2003 01:02 pm
I hear ya Booman. I've tried to fluster the Bush Administration many times by saving my paycheck - maybe I'm powerless over money? Smile
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2003 11:39 pm
Booman<

Sorry, but I don't believe you've "blown thousands a night on drugs."


Embarrassed
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BillW
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2003 03:21 pm
Daily Reflection:

April 10

GROWING UP


The essence of all growth is a willingness to change for the better and then an unremitting willingness to shoulder whatever responsibility this entails.
AS BILL SEES IT, p. 115


Sometimes when I've become willing to do what I should have been doing all along, I want praise and recognition. I don't realize that the more I'm willing to act differently, the more exciting my life is. The more I am willing to help others, the more rewards I receive. That's what practicing the principles means to me. Fun and benefits for me are in the willingness to do the actions, not to get immediate results. Being a little kinder, a little slower to anger, a little more loving makes my life a better - day by day.
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2003 07:36 pm
If you can rate an addictive substance based on how
difficult it is to stop using it Laughing then nicotine was my
#1, lowest level - bottom line drug of choice & I was into
my 10th year of sobriety before I even TRIED to give it
up! It was horror. It was grief. It was my BEST FRIEND.
As long as I continued having a relationship with my drug
of choice, it was kind of really impossible for me to have
any kind of relationship with another human being. I was
"already committed" to my drug of choice. So many
AA'ers still smoke pot and claim sobriety. Personally, I
don't give a rats ass, one way or the other, simply due to
the fact that it isn't hurting my sobriety. But - if someone
was to ASK me what I thought about using recreational drugs
whilst claiming to be clean and sober - then I guess I'd have
to decide what to say. But, funny thing is, NO ONE HAS EVER
ASKED. So I just keep on working on all 12 of the steps like
it says in the textbook,I keep on chairing my Tuesday night
meeting committment, I keep on giving newcomer "females
only" my phone number and I keep on being grateful to be
sober and free & I hope to live long enough to continue to
keep enjoying the results of the 12 steps in MY life.By the
way - any newcomers come in lately? If you want to be a
member, just send me a private message and I'll add your
name to our group and in the future we can have closed
meetings. Meanwhile - we COULD have open chat sessions
if everyone was available at the same time, or day or
anything..... oh well, life is good!! Love to you all, Babs
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Booman
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2003 07:49 pm
WH,
...Look again, I said HUNDREDS! I 've been in the company of people, who've spent thousands in one night.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2003 10:13 pm
Booman<

My mistake; your original post said hundreds.

Embarrassed
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Booman
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2003 12:04 am
Maybe the eyes, are the first to go, oldtimer. Twisted Evil (hee-hee)
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2003 11:50 pm
Booman<

I am as young right now as I'll ever be again Idea
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Booman
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2003 11:58 pm
Confused
Uh........Damn, you're right. Idea Me too! Very Happy
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