Viability of foreverness

You are a really dumb Jack aren't you Frank ? not only profoundly ignorant on almost every subject but incapable of a straight thought or two lines of coherent reasoning...you do as all a favour and resume your ignorance to yourself or go get some reading, you badly need it, old fool !

For any subject we can debate an infinite amount of propositions can be made ad nausea the fundamental distinction being we should give consideration to those to which good reason or justification was or is presented...so far Frank your possibility's have been lacking of any justification as you don't even bother to support your poor guess work...

Limited as your reasoning is the level down weapon of election of your wording arsenal inevitably ends with an how do you know that... a dreadful and pathetic reboot on any debate forming up...you confuse lack of certainty with lack of justification or lack of good reason and thus tend to equate your breathtaking ignorance with others lack of absolute certainty...let me just tell you that you don't make enough up for a neat trick of words mon cher ami !

Not distinguishing between matter and substance or between void and nothingness is a perfect example of expected petulant metaphysical illiteracy, not to mention an unbearable aggression to any sensible intellect...

Anything in particular to which you are making reference here, Fil? What are the "good reasons and justifications"...and which are the ones I have made that you do not especially like?

Do what eh ???

oralloy wrote:

By noting the fact that there haven't been any sightings of fresh stellar fuel being created out of nothingness.

There have been absolutely no sightings of sentient beings on any of the planets circling the nearest 10 stars to Sol. Are you going to say that is evidence that there are no sentient beings on any of those planets?

oralloy wrote:

The only fuel the stars have to burn, is what already exists for them to burn.

How the hell do you know that?

Why do you keep making statements like that?

oralloy wrote:

By noting the fact that there is only a finite amount of fuel for stars.

A finite supply, no matter how vast, will still one day run out.

HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT??????????????????????

How do you know that there is not an infinite amount of fuel for stars...and that it will NEVER run out?

What about stellar nurseries?

And what about black holes? Some believe that whatever is swallowed by a black hole emerges somewhere else.

Oralloy, my last two posts to you got heated. You are due more respect...and I apologize. These things happen.

In any case, I should not have been asking you how you know the supply of fuel is finite, because it is obvious you do not know. Nobody does.

The universe MAY BE infinite...not finite.

The intuitional absurdity of infinite numbers of simultaneous absolutely identical galaxies incidentally might be put to rest by assuming a finite Universe, and so I lean that way

So what ? you want me to tell you on how many pos degree thesis I worked on and helped for finishing philosophy students ?...even for masters for that matter ...oh dear, what does that is supposed to mean for a start ? If you have the formal education and you know what I am talking about you are just being a bully aren't you ?

The universe IS infinite. The pattern of the cosmic microwave background radiation shows that.

..How would a non local event provoke whatever in our region of the Universe ?

oralloy wrote:

The universe IS infinite. The pattern of the cosmic microwave background radiation shows that.

Oralloy...every indication is that you do not know if the universe is infinite or finite...and neither does anyone else.

It really is inappropriate to throw around things like, "The universe IS infinite. The pattern of the cosmic microwave background radiation shows that."

We are nowhere near informed enough about REALITY to be able to say such things with the authority you have used. To be honest, it sounds like a "scientist" of yesterday talking about the mechanics of the movement of the sun around the Earth.