Gun Control and the Illusion of Security

Oralloy - at least you tried to 'reason' in support of what was a truly irrational statement of yours

but you still don't try and make it sound like you have a leg to stand on - Sydney in NSW has 1 million more people than Melbourne.

I'm Australian, and I'm just discussing things...as there is no possible link to me trying to change your constitution...you apparently see much more sinister motives & power than exists...and you come off as incredibly paranoid.

Freedom isn't about doing whatever you want - that's anarchy. Freedom is a balance - a balance between the communities rights & expectations vs the individuals rights & expectations. Laws are (ideally) then made where that line is believed to exist. And punishments are given for breaking those - placing limits on what people can choose to do (ie limiting individual freedom).. Where that balance lies is what many people question, and it's a subjective answer...this sort of thing shouldn't need to be explained. Your view what constitutes anti-freedom further exhibit your paranoia and irrationality.

You are barely able to debate this

I wonder - do you realise that it is people like you that strengthen peoples desire for regulation? No one likes an irrational person owning guns (even though that would be something rather difficult to ascertain in a legal sense)

I wonder - do you realise that it is people like you that strengthen peoples desire for regulation? No one likes an irrational person owning guns (even though that would be something rather difficult to ascertain in a legal sense)

I know you don't have the power to change our Constitution. If anyone really thought you had any chance of harming our liberty, there would be nuclear missiles aimed at you right now.

But you are openly talking about violating our rights

You used to be free. Now you are not.

Says the person who will not be able to point out a single fact I have wrong.

People who support violating civil rights always try to blame their purported victims for the atrocities they try to commit.

oralloy wrote:

I know you don't have the power to change our Constitution. If anyone really thought you had any chance of harming our liberty, there would be nuclear missiles aimed at you right now.

Lmao - paranoid and bloodthirsty.

oralloy wrote:

But you are openly talking about violating our rights

How odd...I was talking about gun regulation.

oralloy wrote:

You used to be free. Now you are not.

What a bizarre view of the world.

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Says the person who will not be able to point out a single fact I have wrong.

So very true - and that would be because you have used almost no facts at all (apart from your constitution, which has never been part of the debate, although you think it does)

As I've pointed out numerous times earlier - this is a subjective topic.

oralloy wrote:

People who support violating civil rights always try to blame their purported victims for the atrocities they try to commit.

Wow, by merely discussing this, as is part of your constitution (freedom of speech is enshrined in your constitution, is it not) I am violating your civil rights and committing attrocities

...how...irrational and what an amazing double standard regarding your fervent belief in your constitution.

As I've previously mentioned - debates with you are pointless...and rather meaningless due to the pseudo religious one eyed faith you display.

Still...it does provide some exercise, which is why I guess I bother replying.

I started replying, and then read further, and realised that your post descended so far into bizarreness that discussion is no longer worthwhile.

The .950 JDJ is the world's largest and most powerful rifle cartridge. Loaded .950 JDJ cartridges are approximately the length of an empty .50 BMG casing, and are based on a 20×102mm case shortened and necked up to accept the .950 in bullet. Projectiles are custom-made and most commonly weigh 3,600 grains, which is 8.2 ounces or over half a pound.

The cartridge propels its 3,600 gr bullet at approximately 2,200 ft/s. This yields a muzzle energy of 38,685 ft·lbf and a momentum of 154.1 Newton-seconds, about the same as a 20x102mm Vulcan round. It is comparable to the original tank rounds of World War I in terms of ballistics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.950_JDJ

I started replying, and then read further, and realised that your post descended
so far into bizarreness that discussion is no longer worthwhile.

People who oppose civil rights often don't know how to cope
when they are prevented from violating civil rights.

I have used guns for hunting for almost 70 years of my life
but I still think you are both bat **** crazy.

I havent noticed that bat **** crazy people have had an effect on lawbreakers.