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Should I ignore my boyfriends cocaine use if it's only once a year?

 
 
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 12:32 pm
What else is he doing? (drinking? pot? gambling? porn? overeating? addictive computer games?)

I have a feeling that there's more to all this than worrying about him using coke once a year.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 12:35 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
Anonymous1234567890 wrote:
We've made a deal that if he ever does it, I'm taking away his prized golf clubs and he's not to play golf for a year. I'll keep a close eye on him and wait and see what happens.


you're going to be with him 24/7 ?
Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 01:31 pm
I hope he is being truthful – there is no way for us to know. I will give you my past experience. I dated a guy maybe around the ages you are discussing. I was about 22; he was 23 or 24. He was an “occasional” coke user. I had maybe a few of times with him and once with another friend. After hearing about a local basketball star dying from using coke one time, I decided this is stupid and never touched it again.

We had then broken up not directly due to coke use (in hindsight it definitely had an impact) – it was how he was treating me – showing up hours late to a planned date; suddenly not have much money – just overall odd behavior. He told me afterwards, he learned and wanted another chance. OK, we would take it slow. Not long after, I was over his apartment; he walked out of the room. I wasn’t searching, just looking around out of boredom – and show a piece of paper on his table (right out in the open). I picked it up without realizing that it folded neatly into a pocket you would put coke in.
I left him and didn’t look back. I realized then why we had these issues – and it seemed to stem from drug use, that I was too young to understand.

Honestly I hope this isn’t the case for you – but just be aware. It isn’t pretty and you really don’t want to be involved if he is a regular user.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 01:34 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Anonymous1234567890 wrote:
We've made a deal that if he ever does it, I'm taking away his prized golf clubs and he's not to play golf for a year. I'll keep a close eye on him and wait and see what happens.


you're going to be with him 24/7 ?


I've learned deals do not work in these situations.

You really think you are going to take away his golf clubs, and that you will still be together after a year to give them back to him.....and that this will be incentive for him?

PT Barnum had a name for you.

Honey, you've already made up your mind to not let this bother you, at least not enough to act like an adult with this person.

You'll get **** on a few more times, keep you back to him because (said with a trembling voice) "I l-l-love him" and he get's the best of both worlds. You'll either leave him when you figure the story he's telling you stinks on ice.

New years eve was 8 months ago sweetie. If you want to believe he's just waiting for next Dec 31 to roll around for his once a year fix (which again, he's only 23 years old for christ's sake, how many new years has he done drugs with a entire year in between?) I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 01:38 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:


We had then broken up not directly due to coke use (in hindsight it definitely had an impact) – it was how he was treating me – showing up hours late to a planned date; suddenly not have much money – just overall odd behavior. He told me afterwards, he learned and wanted another chance. OK, we would take it slow. Not long after, I was over his apartment; he walked out of the room. I wasn’t searching, just looking around out of boredom – and show a piece of paper on his table (right out in the open). I picked it up without realizing that it folded neatly into a pocket you would put coke in.
I left him and didn’t look back. I realized then why we had these issues – and it seemed to stem from drug use, that I was too young to understand.



Looks like we cross posted linkat.....I'd say in hindsight you definitely broke up due to his drug use. That's what drug users do, show up late, act oddly, and always have an excuse.

Hear that OP....they ALWAYS have an excuse.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 01:48 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Not sure why you think Mr. Alexander's presentation to the Canadian Senate was anything more than an opinion piece.


Yeah, I finally shoveled my way through that mess.

It was so all over the place it was hard at times to figure out what was going on.

I particularly liked the part about becoming addicted, but then regaining control over their usage....near where it talked about people going on 2 day binges.

Makes me want to go look for some crack to buy. I'm not working today, so I might as well give it a try.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 01:55 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
Anonymous1234567890 wrote:

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So, he is 23.
How many New Years Eve parties has he been to?

If he started going when he was 18, does that mean he's done coke 5 times?

Did he go to 5 parties in one night and so got to do coke 5 times?

Did all the New Year's parties he went to have to be more fun?


Okay, so I talked to him about it and he told me the details.

Key: 1 line = 2-3 inches long, half a wooden pencil to a full wooden pencil thick

21 years old: 1st time. New Years. He did 3 lines, then did 2 lines later at the same party.

22 years old: 2nd time. New Years. Did 3-4 lines at once.

22 years old: 3rd time. Thanksgiving. 1 line every hour. Took 4-5 lines in total.

23 years old: didn't do any. The friend that buys it couldn't find any.

He also said he only did it for parties because it was worthless alone, and only when he was offered to by his friends.


DING DING DING DING!~~~

So, it's gone from the original truth that he only does it on NYE (Allllll the way back to when he was 21, and he's 23 now) to picking other holidays on which he indulged......and also at parties.....when he was offered some....

How many parties? how regularly?

The parties where worthless alone? Or him?
If the parties were worthless, he could have left. If he's worthless, you better leave.

Do you not see he's lied, changing his stories as he goes along and so on?

Jesus wept.

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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 02:48 pm
@chai2,
and he once came clean on something - he was going away camping with his friends....he decided to tell me the truth - he was at drunk camp - his second drinking and driving offense; and all that time he was driving me around he didn't have a liscence.

I forgave him for that. Since he came clean and told me - he was going to change; I gave him a kick in the pants when I dumped him. So he said.

He sent me roses to the office - my first job - huge bouquet. Suddenly he again had money to spend on me - he knew though the minute I held up that piece of paper and he walked it was over for good.

But you learn from these things. I am still a little bit sad about it. Was my most serious boyfriend I had until then. Really was a nice guy; really sweet and funny until seems starting changing a bit. And to top it off - his mom was a police officer.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 04:36 pm
@chai2,
The man quote studies so I assume if you have any question you could google those studies.

In any case you wish ,without any foundation that I can see to, claim that there is no such thing as a casual Coke user.

Another case of the old reefer madness mind set of the thirties concerning pot.



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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 13 Aug, 2012 07:09 pm
@Linkat,
Linkat wrote:

But you learn from these things. I am still a little bit sad about it. Was my most serious boyfriend I had until then. Really was a nice guy; really sweet and funny until seems starting changing a bit. And to top it off - his mom was a police officer.


I know just what you mean.
Sometimes I'll think of someone from back in the day, feel a little sad because....well.....because.....

Drugs like this do change someone, and even if they stop, and change again, it's not to the original person they were.

Innocence lost.
Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:11 pm
@PUNKEY,
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What else is he doing? (drinking? pot? gambling? porn? overeating? addictive computer games?)

I have a feeling that there's more to all this than worrying about him using coke once a year.


My sister did coke. She stopped (used to take big pillows of it), her boyfriend didn't. Now she argues with him. I don't want that to happen to me.

I know coke isn't as addictive as people make it out to be. My sisters, cousins, and friends used to take loads of it and quit. But every now and again, someone gets addicted to it. Then again, my sisters boyfriend had a fucked up life-doesn't have parents and his grandma is dying of lung cancer.

Still, I felt shocked when he told me that he's tried it before, because he's not a street kid like me Cool he's a cacky pants wearing, fruit bowl haircut, math guy.

We don't drink (he can't because of his medication), we don't do pot (we don't like it) he doesn't gamble, but he has to tear me away from those machines before I lose all my money.

We watch porn together, though I like to watch guyxguy gay porn on my own (he knows about my fetish and he's okay with it, but won't do a gay cosplay for me Sad ) and we both play video games together.

I'm very happy in my relationship. We have a lot of things in common, we're very open and talk about everything, and we both understand that honesty sets the groundwork for a healthy relationship. It's just that my mother and three sisters have had bad relationships in the past and all my life I've been told that men are nice in the beginning and that they turn into monsters later, so I'm scared of it happening to me as well. So I can't help but be weary because it's easy to fall in love, but it's hard to fall out of it.
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Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:19 pm
@ehBeth,
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you're going to be with him 24/7?

No, but the truth will come out eventually. I know his supplier, I know the friends he does it with, and I know the symptoms.
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Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:39 pm
@chai2,
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Drugs like this do change someone, and even if they stop, and change again, it's not to the original person they were.

Innocence lost.


Umm, that's not true. My sister used to do pretty much every drug out there and used to be in gangs back when our father left us. She left that all behind. We're full-time students in college now and she's the kindest person I know. Every addict I know was going through a difficult time when they got addicted.

I haven't ever gotten addicted to any of the drugs I've tried, either. Because drugs were always readily available in my life, I've pretty much tried every drug out there (what can I say? It was the curiosity). Coke just made me really hyper. It was fun, but I don't need it.

And what are you talking about? People change every day. Can you honestly say you were the same person you were 5 or 10 years ago? 1 week ago I hated yogurt and today I'm addicted to the stuff. Yesterday, I was a lazy bum, and today I cleaned my entire house. People are supposed to change. That's how we adapt and survive.

Personally, I'm glad I tried drugs, because now I know I can live without them. It's not super addictive (in my experience). it doesn't turn you into a mindless zombie-slave. It felt more like riding a roller coaster: you had fun, but then you got off and walked away to live the rest of your life.
jcboy
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 05:47 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
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It felt more like riding a roller coaster: you had fun, but then you got off and walked away to live the rest of your life.


That’s not the case for everyone. I’m sure some can walk away, others can’t.

I’ve never tried illegal drugs but I have known those that have, their not fun to be around IMO.
Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 06:57 pm
@jcboy,
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That’s not the case for everyone. I’m sure some can walk away, others can’t.


Most of the people who I know walked away, and I've talked to those who couldn't and was told that drugs helped them escape their problems. I was told that I could walk away because I didn't have any serious problems in my life and I didn't need it, but that to them, it was like an anti-depressant. These are usually orphans or kids that live in abusive households or have serious problems in their lives.

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I’ve never tried illegal drugs but I have known those that have, their not fun to be around IMO.


Just because you've tried drugs before, doesn't make you no longer fun to be around. Otherwise, half the people in the world would have no friends. I'm often told that I'm a people-person and that I'm a great friend, and my sister is a wonderful person. We don't even curse in our household.

I'm actually anti-drugs, but I don't like it when others demonize people who have tried drugs before, because that's a bit, for lack of a better word, ignorant.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 07:05 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
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Just because you've tried drugs before, doesn't make you no longer fun to be around. Otherwise, half the people in the world would have no friends


I believe that in america the exact number is 54%.
jcboy
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 07:22 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
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Or will this lead to problems later on down the road?


According to your other comments it doesn’t. So why ask?

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There have been other little lies, like "I've never lost a game of Dota 2" but I can usually see through those.


So he’s a liar too.

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I'm very happy in my relationship. We have a lot of things in common, we're very open and talk about everything, and we both understand that honesty sets the groundwork for a healthy relationship.


You already said you caught him in little lies, if honesty sets the groundwork for a healthy relationship where does that leave yours?

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Every addict I know was going through a difficult time when they got addicted.


This part you got right.
Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 07:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I believe that in america the exact number is 54%.


Alcohol is a drug. I'm pretty sure that percentage is just a tad bit higher, don't you?
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chai2
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 07:25 pm
@Anonymous1234567890,
That's not what I meant.

Whatever you do in life, it's a river. You cannot become the person you were before the experience, whether it be good or bad.

You yourself said people change every day, so you contradict yourself.

Again, you'd already made up your mind you were going to accept him, regardless that you now know he changes his stories to suit himself.

What exactly do you want from us?

Our opinion?

It's been given, and you'll do what you decide for yourself. So?
Anonymous1234567890
 
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Reply Tue 14 Aug, 2012 07:33 pm
@jcboy,
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According to your other comments it doesn’t. So why ask?


Honestly? I was at a point where I was unsure if I'd just be nagging my boyfriend to death, so I wanted the extra support of people encouraging me to talk to him (which I would've anyways, because I can never keep my thoughts to myself), and it worked! I told him about how I felt, and he stopped.

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So he’s a liar too.


Everybody lies. It may only be “white” lies, but everyone tells lies or “omits the truth” sometimes.

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You already said you caught him in little lies, if honesty sets the groundwork for a healthy relationship where does that leave yours?


read comment above. If a healthy relationship required never lying about anything, ever, then nobody would have one.
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