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Doesn't America Deserve Better?

 
 
Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 08:19 am
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 08:26 am
@gungasnake,
The Republicans put out one lie after another.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 10:04 am
This is something that has been happening all over the country wether this particular example is true or not. Nothing dirty about the truth if you arnt a republican.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 10:04 am
@maxdancona,
The lie in this case is on the side of the dems and team-Obunga.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/09/Top-Dem-Demands-Obama-repudiate-Ad

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The evidence connecting the Obama campaign to Priorities USA, a super PAC that launched an appalling and blatantly false attack ad blaming a woman's death on Mitt Romney, is starting to pile up.

Bill Burton runs Priorities USA and was Obama's deputy press secretary under Robert Gibbs. You can also add in the fact that the man in the ad telling the undeniably tragic tale of his wife's passing, Joe Soptic, has also appeared in ads for the Obama campaign. Finally, just yesterday, senior Obama campaign advisor Stephanie Cutter was caught red-handed lying about her knowledge of the ad.

The ad's overall accusation against Romney is bad enough, but the misleading elements within are so numerous and undeniable, that the ad has prompted the kind of media blowback usually reserved for Republicans.......
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 10:12 am
@gungasnake,
Breitbart.com? Really?

You guys never fail to make me chuckle.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 10:56 am
@gungasnake,
Actually, Gunga, America does NOT deserve better. America is getting exactly what it is asking for--begging for, in fact. Especially people like you.

My guess is Obama is toast. Romney will be running things from January 20th, 2013 on.

Because of that, we will be even worse off then than we are now.

Enjoy it.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 04:19 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Actually, Gunga, America does NOT deserve better. America is getting exactly what it is asking for--begging for, in fact.


Following this line of logic, that would apply equally to what happened on 9-11, wouldn't it, Frank?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 04:49 pm
@JTT,
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Following this line of logic, that would apply equally to what happened on 9-11, wouldn't it, Frank?


Your command of grammar seems to be better than of logic, JTT.

America does not seem to be begging for an outside attack (and has not been begging for an outside attack)...it seems to be begging to destroy itself from within.

Just an opinion, of course!
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 05:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Mark Steyn is calling this election the "last exit ramp before the death spiral".

http://news.investors.com/article/621817/201208101659/romney-needs-to-stop-obama-re-election.htm?p=full

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I wouldn't claim to know what America believes or even what "New Hampshire Believes," but this is what I believe — that another four years of the present statist ascendancy will seal America's fate.

As noted here previously, the International Monetary Fund predicts that China will become the world's dominant economic power by 2016. So the guy elected in November will be the first president since Grover Cleveland to know what it feels like to be the global also-ran.

Even this, however, understates the size of catastrophe the United States faces. There are no precedents in history for a great power spending itself to death on the scale America is doing. President Obama has added $5 trillion to the national debt, and has nothing to show for it. Do you know how difficult that is to do?


I don't see what Romney could possibly do which would be worse than a death spiral.

Romney is certainly not any sort of a darling of conservatives and it's been difficult getting many of them on board, particularly Jim Robinson and the FreeRepublic group and their like. What I've told them is that if for any reason Bork Obunga were to be re-elected this November, it will be OVER, and there will not be any pieces lying around for somebody five or ten percent more conservative than Romney to try to pick up or put back together four years down the road. What we'd be looking at would be a new dark age, one of those periods of two or three or four centuries for which no archaeological evidence exists and, at the end of which, if any humans survive at all, they come crawling out of caves and trying to reconstruct how to make fire.




JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Aug, 2012 06:10 pm
@gungasnake,
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I wouldn't claim to know what America believes or even what "New Hampshire Believes," but this is what I believe — that another four years of the present statist ascendancy will seal America's fate.


So many of you dumb assholes are so ******* paranoid. That is one of the major reasons that y'all are so easily duped.

The sad part about that is that the poor of the world are the ones who pay dearly for your rank stupidity. And even as millions suffer from your lies, your crimes, your terrorism, economic and military, y'all do nothing but whine about how things are so tough for America.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 02:41 am
@gungasnake,
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I don't see what Romney could possibly do which would be worse than a death spiral.


You quote one guy saying we are in a death spiral...and use that to say that you don't see what Romney could possibly do which would be worse than that!!!!

C'mon, Gunga. You can do better than that.

gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 06:05 am
@Frank Apisa,
This one doesn't take giant searches or much scholarship... look around. I've never seen anything resembling the fucked up economy we have today, and there seem to be several main components to it i.e. energy, banking/money, health-care, rogue govt. agencies and a rogue political party capable of perpetrating things like the Dodd/Frank/Acorn destruction of the world's financial system of 08....

Even the D.C. region which is supposedly immune, shopping malls closing down, store fronts in the middle of Falls Church on Main St/Rte 7 boarded up....

There is the further question of what motivates Bork Obunga himself and Denesh D'Souza says it's basically an African anti-colonialism which views the U.S. as the last major colonial power and seeks to bring it down to some lesser status and level of capability and this has been made into a documentary movie which is showing in selected theaters now and will be out everywhere shortly::

http://2016themovie.com/


Atom Blitzer
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 08:07 am
@gungasnake,
"Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river."
-Nikita Khrushchev
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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 09:22 am
@gungasnake,
The problem is that if Romney's track record at Bain is any indication--America is toast--the American people will be sold so that a profit will be made by a few.

Romney has a long record, maybe not as a Corporate Raider, but it smells the same.

Rap
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 10:06 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Your command of grammar seems to be better than of logic, JTT.

America does not seem to be begging for an outside attack (and has not been begging for an outside attack)...it seems to be begging to destroy itself from within.


Your sense of grammar [consciously of course] and logic, not to mention history seem lacking, Frank. Look at how easily the US gets its panties in a bunch and how the poor countries of the world pay a devastating price.

The US has illegally invaded myriad countries, killed numerous people within those countries, terrorized millions of others, stolen the wealth of myriad countries the world over and you don't think that the US deserves a smack from all these peoples, all these countries. Why should they be expected to restrain themselves?

Of course they do restrain themselves for obvious reasons but that doesn't negate the fact that the US has committed egregious acts against many and in an equal world, equal in the sense of military might, the US would have been attacked many times by now.

I remember one professor, an honest sort that seems to be sorrily lacking in the US, who, the day of 9-11 said that as soon as it happened, he could easily, immediately count off on his fingers ten or so countries that it could have been.

You, if you were honest, could easily do the same thing, Frank.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 10:08 am
@Frank Apisa,
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You quote one guy saying we are in a death spiral...and use that to say that you don't see what Romney could possibly do which would be worse than that!!!!

C'mon, Gunga. You can do better than that.


And yet you engage in the same chicken littleisms, Frank.

it seems to be begging to destroy itself from within.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 10:36 am
@JTT,
Do you count saving the world from Nazism and Communism amongst America's sins against weaker nations?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 11:09 am
@gungasnake,
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Do you count saving the world from Nazism and Communism amongst America's sins against weaker nations?


Do you even consider, for a moment, the slightest moment, your overweening conceit? There were nations and people who suffered much much more than the US in both wars.

The US got into WWII because it saw a golden opportunity to sink its blood stained claws into even more of the world's poor countries than it had before.

You don't have a grasp that the US doesn't/didn't give a rat's ass about communism or nazism. The US has clearly shown that it is more than willing, in fact, it rather loves doing business with thee most evil and it cares not at all for the poor and the downtrodden. You might want to consider that the US does business with China and Vietnam, both communist countries?

Do you even consider for a moment owning up to the myriad war crimes/terrorism/theft of others wealth that has been a hallmark of American history, instead of trying to make lame excuses?

Isn't that supposed to be how conservatives operate - to take responsibility for their actions?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 12:33 pm
@JTT,
You think the smaller and weaker nations could have dealt with Hitler on their own? Seems more likely to me most of those guys would have been processed into soap and lampshades.

Consider the case of Mexico, which is the nearest prey nation to us, ever wonder why we never simply seized it in the 1800s? How about we just fought a civil war to end slavery and nobody wanted to annex a nation whose entire society was based on a master/serf model... And don't start telling me about the South West states and California, Spain and Mexico never had those places and in fact had a 300 year head start on the Anglo world if they HAD wanted those places.

The one other place you might claim we stole would be the Phillipines and Guam and the indigenous peoples of those places are vastly better off now than they would have been remaining under Spanish rule.

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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 12 Aug, 2012 01:12 pm
@gungasnake,
Too bad the GOP can't do better.

Rap
 

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