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Columbia University Ghost Story

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 02:21 am
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/

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...Why are the college records, of a 51-year-old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.

If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama....



Interesting story and unlike Harry the pig Reid's bullshit, the source for this one is a real person with a real email address which is provided at the linked article.

WallStreet Journal article linked from source:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108881386721289.html


 
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 04:57 am
@gungasnake,
the entire fculty and admin was in cahoots with the DNC back in 1983. They knew that Obama would be elected oresident 25 years later so they "MAde up" al his college records for Occidental College and Columbia University s wekk as his BA. Then, when Obama needed a JD, he had HArvard fake attendeance records and yet another degree for him and they also made up his law review experience.
Pretty clever these Kenyans.

gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 06:51 am
@farmerman,
When logical explanations for something seem to be totally lacking, my normal instinct is to follow the money...
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 06:54 am
@gungasnake,
so you believe in this guys stuff eh" Maybe you should follow HIS money?
Youre an easy touch gunga.
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 07:22 am
@gungasnake,
Particularly when KKKarl Roves FauKKKs news has taken it as an avowed personal responsibility to discredit everything Obama regardless of facts--

Face it GanjasnaKKKe, your being played for a dupe. You're seeing what FauKKKs news wants you to see, and hearing what FauKKKs news wants you to hear. Please don't expect the majority of us to fall into the same shallow trap.

Rap
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 07:37 am
@farmerman,
Or the WallStreet Journal's money??

As I noted above, WSJ told the same basic story early on:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108881386721289.html

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...The Columbia years are a hole in the sprawling Obama hagiography. In his two published memoirs, the 47-year-old Democratic nominee barely mentions his experience there. He refuses to answer questions about Columbia and New York -- which, in this media age, serves only to raise more of them. Why not release his Columbia transcript? Why has his senior essay gone missing?

Now in our view, the college years shouldn't normally be used to judge a politician's fitness for office. We're not sure the transcripts of Al Gore, John Kerry and George W. Bush -- which showed them to be C students -- illuminated much for voters. The McCain campaign won't release his records, but we know he graduated at the bottom of his Naval Academy class.

But Mr. Obama is a case apart. His personal story, as told by him, made possible his rise from obscurity four years ago to possibly the White House. He doesn't have a long track record in government. We mainly have him in his own words. As any autobiographer, Mr. Obama played up certain chapters in his life -- perhaps even exaggerating his drug use in adolescence to drive home his theme of youthful alienation -- and ignored others. What's more, as acknowledged in "Dreams From My Father," Mr. Obama reconstructed conversations and gave some people pseudonyms or created "composite" characters.

Voters and the media are now exercising due diligence before Election Day, and they are meeting resistance from Mr. Obama in checking his past. Earlier this year, the AP tracked down Mr. Obama's New York-era roommate, "Sadik," in Seattle after the campaign refused to reveal his name. Sohale Siddiqi, his real name, confirmed Mr. Obama's account that he turned serious in New York and "stopped getting high." "We were both very lost," Mr. Siddiqi said. "We were both alienated, although he might not put it that way. He arrived disheveled and without a place to stay." For some reason the Obama camp wanted this to stay out of public view.

Such caginess is grist for speculation. Some think his transcript, if released, would reveal Mr. Obama as a mediocre student who benefited from racial preference. Yet he later graduated from Harvard Law School magna cum laude, so he knows how to get good grades. Others speculate about ties to the Black Students Organization, though students active then don't seem to remember him. And on the far reaches of the Web can be found conspiracies about former Carter national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, who became the candidate's "guru and controller" while at Columbia in the early 1980s. Mr. Brzezinski laughs, and tells us he doesn't "remember meeting him."

What can be said with some certainty is that Mr. Obama lived off campus while at Columbia in 1981-83 and made few friends. Fox News contacted some 400 of his classmates and found no one who remembered him. He had transferred from Occidental College in California after his sophomore year because, he told the Boston Globe in 1990, "I was concerned with urban issues and I wanted to be around more black folks in big cities." He got a degree in political science without honors. "For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot," he told his biographer David Mendell.

Put that way, his time at Columbia sounds unremarkable. Maybe that's what most pains a young memoirist and an ambitious politician who strains to make his life anything but unremarkable....

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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 08:05 am
BTW GanjasnaKKKe, NewsKKKorp now owns both the WSJ and FauKKKs news--effectively maling both editoral boards under the biased control of KKKarl Rove. Particularly as Rupert MurdocKKK has been removed from corporate control as a result of a little practice of illegal wiretapping.

Rap
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:04 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnaKKKe wrote:
If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

I went to a university a good deal smaller than Columbia. Not too long ago, someone from my class and my major ran for governor. I had never heard of him before, and I asked some classmates and they had never heard of him either.

He didn't publish his college transcripts during his campaign, so, naturally, I suspected that he was hiding something really important. Based on all of that, I concluded that he was a product of affirmative action and that he never actually attended any classes, but he still graduated because his Republican "mentors" knew he'd be running for governor more than twenty years later.

I'm confident I'm right. It is, after all, the only reasonable explanation.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 04:46 pm
@joefromchicago,
Why do you guys continue to engage snake. You know his posts are from a Rush clone.
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 05:52 pm
@RABEL222,
Its fun to step on GanjasnaKKKe's tail.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:22 am
@joefromchicago,
Quote:
I went to a university a good deal smaller than Columbia. Not too long ago, someone from my class and my major ran for governor. I had never heard of him before, and I asked some classmates and they had never heard of him either.


I don't quite buy that, ruprup, unless you mean the guy was in your class and major as a freshman and then dropped out or transferred.

In Obunga's case we're talking junior and senior courses and graduation, and those junior and senior courses are invariably much smaller and if a student is attending classes at all, others will remember him/her. NOBODY remembers Bork at Columbia.

General google search on obama and columbia university:

http://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=13&gs_id=1g&xhr=t&q=obama+columbia+university&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=obama+columbi&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=18310c0f1f41e6db&biw=1126&bih=756

typical:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/record-shows-obama-at-columbia-only-1-year/

Quote:
Did he attend classes at Columbia?

Henry Franklin Graff, professor emeritus of history at Columbia for 46 years, has cast doubt on claims Obama attended classes at the New York City university.


Henry Franklin Graff
“I have no recollection of Barack Obama at Columbia, and I am sure he never attended any of my classes,” Graff told WND in a telephone interview.

“For 46 years, I taught political history, diplomatic history and one of the pioneering courses on presidential history, and every future politician of note who went through Columbia in those years took one or more of my classes – every one, that is, except Barack Obama.”

Graff further told WND no professor he knew could remember having Obama as a student at Columbia.

“Nobody I knew at Columbia ever remembers Obama being there,” Graff insisted.


http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/07/120706henryfranklingraff.jpg
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 11:31 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
I don't quite buy that, ruprup, unless you mean the guy was in your class and major as a freshman and then dropped out or transferred.

First of all, who the hell is "ruprup?"

Secondly, the candidate was a member of my graduating class. He went there all four years (or claims to have -- as I said before, I have no evidence that he ever attended college). Obama, in contrast, was a junior transfer student at Columbia.

Finally, why don't you buy that? Am I not as credible as some guy you've never heard of who claims that he went to Columbia at the same time as Obama but never saw him? What makes that claim more credible than mine?

gungasnake wrote:
In Obunga's case we're talking junior and senior courses and graduation, and those junior and senior courses are invariably much smaller and if a student is attending classes at all, others will remember him/her. NOBODY remembers Bork at Columbia.

Nobody?

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Although Barack Obama may not have been particularly social or memorable during his years at Columbia, it isn't true that "no one ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc." Those who have attested to having daily personal experience with him during his time at that school include:

Friend and roommate Sohale Siddiqi, whom the Associated Press located and interviewed in May 2008.

Roommate Phil Boerner, who provided his recollections of sharing a New York City apartment with classmate Barack Obama to the Columbia College Today alumni publication and the New York Times in early 2009.

Michael L. Baron, who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.


And there's more...
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:07 pm
@joefromchicago,
Liar liar pants on fire.
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 05:19 pm
@joefromchicago,
I think GanjasnaKKKe was aiming the 'ruprup' gaff toward me. I'm honored, sir.

As for Columbia claim I'm a bit of a quantifyer do I'm going to play with some numbers.

A little research tells me that Columbia has over 25,000 unfergraduates students at its main campus and 8000 at satellite campuses. I'll cull this number a bit and only use main Campus students.

So lets look at a for a single professor. Generally profs teach 3 classes a semester and on the outside has 50 students in each class. So a prof sees approximately 300 students per year in their classes (3 classes*50 students per class*2 semesters per year).

As Obama was at Columbia for two years, this prof saw maybe 600 students in his class max. Granted this number is a gross maximum as 50 students per class is huge for a higher level university class. Moreover, this number inherantly assummes that all students only had this prof once--but it does give a an outlying guess that this prof saw roughly 2.5% (6/250) of the Columbia sudent body in his classroom over the two years Obama was at Columbia ---that would mean that 97.5% of the students at the main campus of Columbia never came in contact with this teaching professor, unless they waited on his table at a local pizza parlor.

So the claim that he never saw (or really noticed) Obama at Columbia is completely believable, but it is also expected as he wouldn't have seen the majority of the students at Columbia during that two year tenure.

Rap
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 08:44 pm
@raprap,
It's not a question of a majority of students or any such, the WSJ was unable to come up with ANYBODY who ever saw or heard of the guy at Columbia and as the one prof noted, there were core courses which anybody would have needed to graduate with a polisci degree and nobody who taught those courses ever heard of Obunga and anybody would assume that there is some relationship between these facts and Bork refusing to release his college transcripts.

And the funny thing is that it's unlikely the subject would ever come up other than for demokkkrats claiming that the IRS needs help from Dingy Harry Reid and other libtards to keep from being flimflammed and foxed by Mitt Romney.

I mean, the ******* IRS has powers which the Gestapo and КГБ only ever dreamed of having...
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:12 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

It's not a question of a majority of students or any such, the WSJ was unable to come up with ANYBODY who ever saw or heard of the guy at Columbia

Other publications, however, seem to have had no trouble at all.

gungasnake wrote:
and as the one prof noted, there were core courses which anybody would have needed to graduate with a polisci degree and nobody who taught those courses ever heard of Obunga

That's simply not true. According to the article you quoted, Prof. Graff said: “For 46 years, I taught political history, diplomatic history and one of the pioneering courses on presidential history, and every future politician of note who went through Columbia in those years took one or more of my classes – every one, that is, except Barack Obama.” So, in other words, Graff didn't teach a required course for all poli sci majors. Rather, he just thinks that aspiring politicians would have been drawn to his courses. But Obama maybe wasn't an aspiring politician, he was an aspiring social worker, so it's not much of a stretch to think that he wouldn't have taken one of Graff's courses.

gungasnake wrote:
and anybody would assume that there is some relationship between these facts and Bork refusing to release his college transcripts.

Well, they aren't facts, and only an idiot would think that Obama didn't attend Columbia.

But then this whole manufactured "controversy" didn't start because right wingnuts thought Obama didn't attend Columbia, they thought he got into Columbia (and Harvard Law School) through affirmative action. That's why they wanted to see his transcripts. All of this bullshit about Obama not attending Columbia at all is a recent contrivance to cover up the inherent racism of his critics.
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:26 pm
@gungasnake,
Michael L. Baron remembered Obama being at Columbia. So does Michael J. Wolf. And there are several published (and vetted) interviews with one of his NY Columbia roommates.

And Mr Obama's graduation from Columbia was used to attain acceptance to Harvard Law. And Ivy League professional schools require vetted records for admission.

Sorry GanjasnaKKKe, this story is just another in the long list of Tea Party paranoia rants that has been used to excuse their 'Shock and Racism' against Obama.

BTW I was just reading a Tea Party blog that claimed that Obama was involved in a gay marriage in 1981 with the same NY roommate he had at Columbia. To me this is hilarious, because this same superparinoid 'birther' conspiracy theorist uses this same evidence of Obama's presence at Columbia, to condemn him of another trumped false claim (gay marriage) and then simultaneously denies this same evidence when claiming he never was at the school. Its like he doesn't recognize his own insanity.

Talk about playing the same claims against the middle--this 'birther''s fruitcake blog is so all over the place he almost makes you sound rational.

As for being rememered at Columbia--Obama stated that his presence at Columbia was a time of study and direction, with little social contact except for participation in upper level pick you major classes and the library. As these classes tend to be small and intense, his social contact was limited to a small area in the very large pond of Columbia.

Now he might have left a larger footprint, if Obama was a partier, or a problem student, or an athlete, or a wild child but it seems that while at Columbia he was a studious, directed student who attracted limited attention ourside of his class or the library.

BTW here's a picture of Obama in Central Park with his grandparents in 1981.

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/item/wnd-20110407-obamagrandparents.jpg

Looks like he was a nice kid.

Rap
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 02:14 am
As i've said to often, you can't beat this place for free entertainment.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 05:39 am
@raprap,
Quote:
As for being rememered at Columbia--Obama stated that his presence at Columbia was a time of study and direction, with little social contact except for participation in upper level pick you major classes and the library. As these classes tend to be small and intense, his social contact was limited to a small area in the very large pond of Columbia.


Bullshit. Somebody in one of those small/intense major classes would remember the dufe, PARTICULARLY somebody in one of the small/intense classes. I sent to a school as large as Columbia and there's no way anybody could have graduated in either my field or any of several related fields in the same year without me ever having seen him.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 05:53 am
I love the way Gunga Dim continues to pretend that no one remembers his attendance at Columbia. Talk about cognitive dissonance--i guess when the evidence is presented, he just sticks his fingers in his ears and says: "La-la-la-la, i can't hear you."
 

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