cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Romney says he paid at least 13% in taxes during the past ten years. That's not enough information; we need to know if he cheated on his taxes, and only his tax returns will show that!

Quote:

August 16, 2012, 12:53 PM191 Comments
Romney Says ‘I’ve Paid at Least 13%’ in Taxes in Past Decade
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Evan Vucci/Associated Press
Mitt Romney talked about Medicare during a news conference in Spartanburg, S.C., on Thursday. Mr. Romney also answered questions about his tax history and criticized the focus on his taxes as “small-minded.”
Mitt Romney said on Thursday that he had not paid less than 13 percent of his income in taxes during the past decade, but he called the continued focus on his personal tax returns “small-minded” in the face of the nation’s problems.

Speaking to reporters during a stop in South Carolina, Mr. Romney said that he had examined the last 10 years of his tax returns.

“Every year, I’ve paid at least 13 percent,” he said, apparently referring to his effective federal income tax rate.


This should also make all conservative middle class tax payers "happy," that their guy knows how to pay less income taxes on millions in income while they all pay a higher rate.

Romney wants to become president so he and his rich buddies can keep more of their money by paying less taxes. Nice goal.

I just wonder if conservative middle class families understand the consequences of their votes.
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:23 pm
Mr. Romney needs an adviser on Latin American slang.
He told Cuban-Americans he loves papayas. Papaya, in Cuban slang is a vagina. They call that fruit "frutabomba" (I got to know, my parents were Cuban).

http://nbclatino.com/2012/08/15/mitt-romney-tells-cubans-he-loves-papaya-unaware-its-slang-word-for-female-private-parts/
rosborne979
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:25 pm
@fbaezer,
fbaezer wrote:

Mr. Romney needs an adviser on Latin American slang.
He told Cuban-Americans he loves papayas. Papaya, in Cuban slang is a vagina. They call that fruit "frutabomba" (I got to know, my parents were Cuban).
Maybe he loves vagina's and frutabomba's and was just killing two birds with one stone.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:27 pm
@rosborne979,
Mr. Green Thanks for my laugh for today.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 12:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
An addendum to my previous post.

Quote:
Ann Romney on tax returns: ‘There’s nothing we’re hiding’

Romney's wife is pushing back on pressure to release additional tax filings. In an interview, Ann Romney reiterated that her husband won't release more records, insisting it would just provide more fodder for Democratic attacks.


How can it become fodder if there's nothing to hide? Where's the logic?
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
All right, now this is just getting silly:

Romney’s answer won’t satisfy everyone. (More on that below.) But, in asserting that for the last decade he has never paid less than a 13 percent tax rate, Romney is calling Democrats’ bluff and forcing them now to call him a liar if they argue that he paid any less. In short: The burden of proof has now shifted from Romney to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democratic party more broadly.

I'm not sure how Mitt Romney pulling a number out of his (censored) and saying that settles the argument counts as "calling the Democrat's bluff." I'm also intrigued by the notion that by claiming he paid, golly gee, at least the pitifully low figure of 13 percent as taxes somehow now makes Mitt Romney look like the good guy. Thirteen percent counting what? For how many years? On how many millions of dollars, and how can the rest of us get in on such a sweet, sweet tax rate?

Narrowly, however, I'm intrigued by this whole burden of proof argument. Mitt Romney has, I might gently point out, not "proved" a damn thing. He has asserted something, without evidence. He has asserted it without evidence because he is explicitly withholding the evidence, and the evidence being withheld—tax returns—is something that other politicians are regularly expected to provide. Even Mitt's own father recognized the inherent dishonesty of not doing such a thing, so I really don't think the Democrats are in a real bind if they think that Mitt Romney asserting something without evidence is not, in fact, the automatic end of the story. I know of no literary mystery that ends with the suspect saying "I did not do that," upon which all the policemen and detectives go on their merry way, considering the case closed.


source
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:08 pm
@fbaezer,
Yeah, I saw the same article and thought, "hell, I'd say exactly the same thing."

It just silly to criticize someone for not know all possible slang in all possible languages.

I bet he says "fanny pack," too.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:10 pm
@revelette,
So Reid can assert that Romney's a liar, and dare him to prove him wrong....
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:15 pm
@DrewDad,
The real evidence is still missing. Romney doesn't seem to understand that his riches doesn't allow him to hide evidence, and believes his statements has credibility. He's already a known liar, and wants voters to believe him.

How far conservatives are willing to sacrifice their own ethics is the interesting issue of our day. They've probably all heard about the voter suppression tactics by the conservative state legislators.

Kill the country at any cost to win the election.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You are doing a good job of telling half-truths.
You seem to be ignoring the tax code just to attack Romney.
You know as well as I do that capitol gains, dividends,and investments are all taxed at a lower rate than income from a paycheck.

So, you are attacking Romney for following the law, even though every rich democrat has done the exact same thing, including Harry Reid.
And since he won't release his tax returns either, you can't defend him at all.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:56 pm
@mysteryman,
You wrote,
Quote:
These are precisely the policies our idiot president is attempting to apply here.


No half truths; fact. Who do you think influenced these low rates? It certainly was not the middle class and the poor. Who do you think are talking about lowering more tax rates for the rich?

You don't understand much about American politics or economics do you!
Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 01:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
actually, a large chunk of the middle class is voting for these low taxes on the rich, much to their own demise.

crazy, huh...?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:03 pm
@Rockhead,
I know; that's something of a mystery to understand.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Since you decided to make up a quote and attribute it to me, what does that for your credibility?

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:27 pm
@mysteryman,


Actually, I was having a discussion with georgeob on another thread, and I'm not sure why this post ended up here!
Rockhead
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
CRS symptoms?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:34 pm
@Rockhead,
Could be. Life is full of mysteries that I'll never begin to understand.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You're being disingenuous.

You know full well that the Dems will find something to criticize, even if they have to distort the truth.

Despite Dirty Harry's lies there is no reason to believe Romney hasn't paid any taxes over the last 10 years or has anything suggesting illegality in his returns.

It's not has if no one has seen these returns.

Do you think political hack lawyers for the Obama campaign can find something the IRS can't?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 02:51 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Replace where you've written "Dems" with "Conservatives/GOP" and you have it spot on!

Nobody said "he didn't pay any taxes." You've not been reading what I've said on this topic, so quit your ignorance.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Aug, 2012 04:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
"Division, anger and hate" is what Romney is calling Obama. What was it when Romney spent billions demolishing his own party members?

What Romney did must be "togetherness, contentment, and love" when he trashed his own party members.
 

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