RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2012 02:58 pm
True. The brain washing machine is in high gear!
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revelette
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 08:24 am
@Rickoshay75,
Quote:
Mitt Romney’s campaign launched a full-on attack on Tuesday accusing President Obama of gutting welfare reform. In a new ad, policy memo, and press release, Romney claims that the administration’s decision to offer waivers to states that develop innovative ways to meet the law’s work requirements is actually an attempt to “remove work participation rate requirements all together.”

“Under Obama’s plan, you wouldn’t have to work and wouldn’t have to train for a job,” the ad’s narrator says. “They just send you your welfare check.”

The ad is blatantly false — the administration’s plan specifically maintains the work requirement, but allows states to experiment with other methods of transitioning recipients from welfare to work. This is a policy that the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities says will make Temporary Assistance for Needy Families a more effective program.

But the ad is also disingenuous, as it fails to mention that as governor of Massachusetts, Romney explicitly supported the same waiver program he is now criticizing. Romney was one of 29 Republican governors to sign a 2005 letter from the Republican Governor’s Association to congressional leadership touting the benefits a waiver program would bring their states:


The Senate bill provides states with with the flexibility to manage their TANF programs and effectively serve their low-income populations. Increased waiver authority, allowable work activities, availability of partial work credit and the ability to coordinate state programs are all important aspects of moving recipients from welfare to work.

As ThinkProgress has noted, Republican governors in both Utah and Nevada still support the waiver program. Both, incidentally, have endorsed Romney. And while Romney touts TANF’s success in a release accompanying the ad — welfare “reduced the number of people receiving monthly cash benefits from 12.2 million to 4.2 million,” it says — the program’s “success” hasn’t been because its recipients are finding jobs. In fact, TANF has failed to reach the people who need it most, especially compared to the programs that came before it.

As the directive from the Department of Health and Human Services states, the waiver program is aimed at helping more recipients transition to work. “HHS is encouraging states to consider new, more effective ways to meet the goals of TANF, particularly helping parents successfully prepare for, find, and retain employment,” the directive says. “The Secretary is only interested in approving waivers if the state can explain in a compelling fashion why the proposed approach may be a more efficient or effective means to promote employment entry, retention, advancement, or access to jobs that offer opportunities for earnings and advancement that will allow participants to avoid dependence on government benefits.”

And states will still be subject to federal evaluation and basic work requirements that “focus on measurable outcomes” and furthering TANF’s purpose. Failing to do so, HHS states, could result in “termination of the waiver project.”


Links at the source

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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:22 am
Obama yesterday:

Quote:
[The independent Tax Policy Center] determined that Governor Romney’s plan would effectively raise taxes on middle-class families with children by an average of $2,000 -- to pay for this tax cut. Not to reduce the deficit. Not to invest in things that grow our economy, like education or roads or basic research. He’d ask the middle class to pay more in taxes so that he could give another $250,000 tax cut to people making more than $3 million a year. (Boo.)

It’s like Robin Hood in reverse. (Laughter.) It’s Romney Hood. (Applause.)


Romney's tax plan not adding up is going to really screw him. I think we may see a few more zingers from Obama on this issue.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 11:13 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I've been sending Obama emails to tell him the only way he's going to win this election is through communication with the American people; to challenge almost everything Romney says - including his plan to add 1.2 million jobs during his first year in office. It's all bull ****, because he "never" provides details on anything he says he's going to do.

Romney also said he's going to make US energy self-sufficient, and again he fails to provide details on how he plans to do this.

He's all hat and no cattle.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 11:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Does Romney ever tell the truth?

Quote:
Bill Clinton calls Romney’s welfare claims 'not true'

DES MOINES—Former President Bill Clinton is pushing back against Mitt Romney's claim that President Barack Obama is trying to reverse bipartisan welfare reforms he signed into law in 1996. In a television ad released Tuesday and later at an event outside Chicago, Romney criticized a recent Department of Human Services directive that relaxed federal work [...]
roger
 
  2  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 12:06 am
@JamesMorrison,
JamesMorrison wrote:

Further, Obama has decided not to enforce DOMA, federal immigration law ( and sued Arizona for doing so), decreed, by fiat, an executive policy that essentially mirrors the Dems DREAM act and deemed Congress in recess when it decidedly was not just so that he could make some bureaucratic appointments. My statement stands.



No, it does not mirror the dream act. The dream act required honorable military service or college graduation. It also provided a path to citizenship.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 01:00 am
@roger,
That's not how I remember the Dream Act.
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revelette
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:01 am
I am just reading this for the first time but if true...

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

Quote:
When The Huffington Post asked the Romney campaign about Bain Capital accepting funds from families tied to death squads, a spokeswoman forwarded a 1999 Salt Lake Tribune article to explain the campaign's position on the matter. She declined to comment further.

"Romney confirms Bain had investors in El Salvador. But, as was Bain's policy with any big investor, they had the families checked out as diligently as possible," the Tribune wrote. "They uncovered no unsavory links to drugs or other criminal activity."

Nobody with a basic understanding of the region's history could believe that assertion.

By 1984, the media had thoroughly exposed connections between the death squads and the Salvadoran oligarchy, including the families that invested with Romney. The sitting U.S. ambassador to El Salvador charged that several families, including at least one that invested with Bain, were living in Miami and directly funding death squads. Even by 1981, El Salvador's elite, largely relocated to Miami, were so angered by the public perception that they were financing death squads that they reached out to the media to make their case. The two men put forward to represent the oligarchs were both from families that would invest in Bain three years later. The most cursory review of their backgrounds would have turned up the ties.

The connection between the families involved with Bain's founding and those who financed death squads was made by the Boston Globe in 1994 and the Salt Lake Tribune in 1999. This election cycle, Salon first raised the issue in January, and the Los Angeles Times filled out more of the record earlier this month.

There is no shortage of unsavory links. Even the Tribune article referred to by the Romney campaign reports that "about $6.5 million of $37 million that established the company came from wealthy El Salvadoran families linked to right-wing death squads."
McGentrix
 
  2  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:30 am
@revelette,
Wow, "death squads" is written 7 times in that short post. Guess the point is to say that voting for Romney is voting for death squads cause death squads are in El Salvatore. Death squads.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:42 am
@McGentrix,
Gotta watch out for those death squads, for sure.

In other news,

Obama continues to maintain the lead he needs in order to win over Romney, in a variety of swing states -

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

RCP is currently projecting the race, based on polling averages, at 247 Obama - 191 Romney, with 100 EV's undecided.

Obama has seen some positive movement to shore up WI and MI in recent polls, and he's up by an average of 4.8 in OH - a state that is absolutely critical this cycle, as it's very, very difficult for Mitt to win without it.

Cycloptichorn
revelette
 
  2  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:44 am
@McGentrix,
Miss the point much?

The point is according to sources going back to 1994, Bain was started with money connected to families who had connections to right-wing death squads in El Salvatore.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:55 am
@Cycloptichorn,
On July 16, Obama had 268; it has dropped to 247 by 21 points. I hope this trend doesn't hold up.
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JPB
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:00 am
Intrade projects Obama to carry 303 electoral college votes.

http://electoralmap.net/2012/intrade.php
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:06 am
@JPB,
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Nate's got him at 301 EV's and a 72% chance of winning - highest odds ever this cycle for Obama.

New question for the thread: will Romney's running mate choice materially affect the race?

Cycloptichorn
revelette
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:10 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I think it will give Romney a boost because it will be a conversation piece other than Romney.
engineer
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:32 am
@Cycloptichorn,
It really depends on if he does a McCain or not. A pick that generates a lot of enthusiasm with the base might alienate moderates whose votes are critical, but a moderate might hurt the excitement level in the ground troops and hurt the critical door to door game. This is really a watershed election. Romney is running with lots of money from a few people. Obama is still running with a lot more popular support. We all know money is a big factor but this election will show if money is the only factor.
parados
 
  2  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:33 am
@revelette,
Unless it turns to the VP's tax returns......

Then right back to Romney's
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JPB
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:36 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I think choosing Ryan will seal the deal for Obama.

Quote:
Just how important could the debate over the Ryan budget, especially if he’s Romney’s VP pick? Just consider this AARP poll of voters over 50, in which Obama and Romney are tied 45-45% with the group (and with Obama’s approval at just 42%). Per this poll, 91% believe “Social Security is critical to the economic security of seniors” and “the next president and Congress need to strengthen Social Security so that it is able to provide retirement security for future generations.” (That includes about three-quarters of Romney voters.) And on Medicare: 95% say “Medicare is critical to maintaining the health of seniors” and 88% say the next president and Congress “need to strengthen Medicare so that it is able to provide health coverage in retirement for future generations.” The poll was conducted by Hart Research and GS Strategy Group. (Disclosure: Hart Research is the Democratic half of the NBC-WSJ poll.)Source


I don't know much about the other two, which is probably a good thing for a running mate.

Ryan is persona non grata with elder voters and they tend to vote in large numbers.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:37 am
@engineer,
I pretty much agree with this.

The consensus on the top possibilities are: Pawlenty, Portman, Rubio, Jindal, and Ryan, with Susannah Martinez thrown in every now and then for fun.

The first two are boring but won't scare off independents. Rubio is more exciting - and would help in FL - but has waned recently in popular prognostication of the pick. Jindal and Ryan would excite the Conservative base, but neither would bring a state with them and neither would sit comfortably with many independents.

A Ryan pick, in particular, would inextricably tie Romney to Ryan's plan that guts Medicare and SS to cut taxes for the rich. It's hard to see how the WH isn't salivating over the chance to run against that.

Cheers
Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
  0  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:43 am
@McGentrix,
Death squads, you say? Romney...death squads... <neural pathway eyes buddy to the left>
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