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Have L.A. cops gone trigger-happy?

 
 
Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 04:37 pm
(AP) – 28 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The number of suspects killed by police in Los Angeles County has risen nearly 70 percent in 2011 over the previous year.

The Los Angeles Times reports Sunday (http://lat.ms/NpY7ry ) that 54 people were killed by law enforcement in 2011 countywide. In about two-thirds of the cases, the person was armed with a gun, knife or other weapon. In 12 cases, the person was unarmed.

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck says the majority of shootings are legitimate responses to serious threats. He says police have become more adept at responding quickly to violent situations.

Fatal police shootings this year, however, have fallen back to 2010 levels.

The increase in police killings come at a time when murder rates have fallen to historic lows — 612 homicides were recorded countywide last year.

Information from: Los Angeles Times, http://www.latimes.com

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gsg7oTx_Tq_a7KdtWdnVjHV9syMw?docId=07b5ca4a4fc145168638a2dd033471f4

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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 05:02 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
That's 25% un-armed... I think that re-training needs to take place, it seems "automatic" so to speak Smile For them to just react instantly.... That's wrong.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 05:51 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
I'm just waiting for a comment from OmSigDAVID. I'm sre he'll be along to explain why this is all tothe good.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 06:05 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Ahh, a gun thread.. I always read his name as OMG David.. Dunno why? weird...
trying2learn
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 09:21 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
How should they be re-trained? React instantly.. ??? Why is that wrong?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 09:42 pm
@trying2learn,
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In 12 cases, the person was unarmed.
Why should 12 people be killed when they were un-armed?

What about capsicum spray, if they establish that these people are un-armed? Or the headlock..

I see no sense in people being killed when the other person was not in any immediate danger, of being killed. Do you?

If they are trigger happy, shoot to kill, no matter if they are armed or not armed why is that right?
trying2learn
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 09:48 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
You didn't answer my questions. When you do, I will answer yours.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 09:48 pm
Just about anyone knows not to show something that may be force.

They probably learn that at six.

I haven't lived in LA since the beginning of 99.

I have mixed feelings.










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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2012 12:39 am
@trying2learn,
Obvioulsly I am not making a comment persay re:- LA cops.. And "cops gone trigger happy" with a question mark, is what I answered to.... 25% un-armed dead in my opinion is wrong full stop. I wasn't looking for a debate,purely making a statement.


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How should they be re-trained?


Answered
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What about capsicum spray, if they establish that these people are un-armed? Or the headlock..


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React instantly.. ???


I appreciate that the Head of Police, will always stand by their "man"and I read the link and a couple of things stood out, which made me feel that, regardless of why they were called out, regardless of the knowledge of the areas .. in my "opinion" they weren't threatened in every single situation of those 12 with anything that could "kill" them apart from maybe bare hands.. That appears to be factual. My point was ..... surely they are trained if there is no weapon go out of your way to restrain them, mame them even, shoot their legs, anything other than killing. I see it as instant reaction... He's running for me un-armed shoot him or one was shot twice in the back for running away.

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Why is that wrong?


Answered.

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Why should 12 people be killed when they were un-armed?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2012 12:44 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:
I'm just waiting for a comment from OmSigDAVID.
I'm sre he'll be along to explain why this is all tothe good.
Well, it is not always wise to wait too long b4 responding,
when u r under violent attack.

(SOME people lack the presence of mind
to consult statistics b4 fighting back.)





David
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trying2learn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:35 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
I get it, maybe the police should wait and ask the person are you armed? Shoot them in the legs? No, they are not trained to do that and they are not trained to kill.

The head of police stand by their man? Not where I live.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:37 pm
@trying2learn,
trying2learn wrote:
Why is that wrong?


because they are making a lot of mistakes
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:47 pm
@trying2learn,
trying2learn wrote:


The head of police stand by their man? Not where I live.


Where the heck do you live? Can't be the USofA.
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trying2learn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:50 pm
@ehBeth,
They sometimes have to make split second decisions. Yes, mistakes happen. They are human. I do agree that police officers who use their position just to hurt people should be held accountable.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 09:48 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:

Ahh, a gun thread.. I always read his name as OMG David.. Dunno why? weird...


So do I. David and I mostly get along well, but someone used that on the old Abuzz forum, and it sticks.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 10:21 pm
@trying2learn,
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Shoot them in the legs? No, they are not trained to do that and they are not trained to kill.


So then they are not trained full stop ?

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The head of police stand by their man? Not where I live.


Did you actually read the article? I was quoting that....
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 10:22 pm
@roger,
I like David too.. he is polite, asks me questions politely and I reply. I am also dislexic, well sometimes.. But, seems like it's easy to read into names huh Wink
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 11:51 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:

I like David too.. he is polite, asks me questions politely and I reply.
I am also dislexic, well sometimes.. But, seems like it's easy to read into names huh Wink
It stands for: Opulent Mensan Special Interest Group DAVID.

It refers to a group that I founded about 30 some-odd years ago.





David
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2012 01:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I think you mentioned that once before, can you remind me what the group was about? If twas guns, shhhh better not Smile

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2012 02:22 am
It has been reported for years that the culture with in LAPD is to go hard, in the attempt to mitigate the fact that the force is underfunded and thus understaffed. I have heard nothing to the effect that this has changed.
 

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