When They say "I hate America", what do you think They mean?

Montana,

On the contrary, I have been to Canada many times - east and west, though unfortunately never to Montreal, a city I have often wished to visit. I like Toronto and Vancouver a great deal.

As a boy my family would sometimes summer at a place we had near Colchester on the north shore of lake Eire. (I do recall that the Canadian customs inspectors would hassle us a lot when we took the boat and outboard motor across in Detroit.)

In my Navy days we did a number of rather long at sea exercises in the Pacific with the four or five rather old frigates that constituted Canada's contribution to our mutual defense in that theater. I entertained their captains in my mess regularly - most of them were good guys. I also took a ship of mine into Esquimalt - a charming little Canadian Navy base near Victoria BC.

Most, almost all, of the Canadians I met were quite agreeable. I did however run in to a few loud and aggressive types who were quite liberal with their opinions and a bit reminiscent of your Mr Hurtig. Every place has its loonies.

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LOL george. Well, I guess that means I make it on your loonie list ;-)

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Montana, welcome aboard. I saved you a seat. Very Happy

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Oh cool, I hate sitting alone. Care for some popcorn?

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georgeob1 wrote:

...compared to the many deliberate insults your previous Premier and his aides regularly delivered against our government over the last several years.

Uhm...Premier? Which one? In Canada, a premier is the head of a provincial government. It is a position somewhat akin to a governor of a state in the U.S.A. I think you were likely referring to the former Prime Minister Jean Chretien. And the only deliberate insult I recall was when the prime minister's director of communications, Francoise Ducros, called Bush a moron. (Not too far off the mark, was she? Very Happy

Just kidding! Sorta...*heee!!!*) She wasn't too swift herself by making that comment in front of two reporters.

georgeob1 wrote:

Links don't necessarily constitute proof - lots of trash and misinformation on the web.

This is true, but it might behoove you to recognize the fact that many of your fellow posters at A2K are cable of distinguishing between a trustworthy site and one that is less than reputable.

georgeob1 wrote:

I do recall that the Canadian customs inspectors would hassle us a lot when we took the boat and outboard motor across in Detroit

So...are you saying you expected the Canadian customs officers to let you travel back and forth between Canada and the U.S.A. without any interference?

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I heard this on a t.v. show tonight. It's called Airline and it's a sort of reality mini-series following the trials and tribulations of airline staff at Southwest Airlines.

This elderly lady with an oxygen tank felt she should be allowed on board. (Oxygen tanks are not allowed on passenger planes.) Her comment was "I'm an American. I have the right to get on that plane."

I can't speak for other nations, but I'm not sure I've ever heard anything expressed by a Canadian that would come close to that comment. Uniquely American perhaps? To expect deferential treatment because they are "an American"?

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At the risk of offending those in the green and pleasant lands, I heard similar things from the English in the 1970s. Sad

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Montana,

It's true I don't watch Canadian TV unless you count the odd CSPAN broadcast of the proceedings in the Canadian Parliament - (I find their accents, with the hard consonants and loud aspirations a bit grating and the manner of speech is often as full of bluster as your Mr.Hurtig, but no worse overall than the oily platitudes of U.S. politicians.)

I don't watch much American TV either, and I doubt that viewing more of either it or the Canadian variety would do much to improve my (or your) understanding.

Perhaps you are too influenced by your Massachusetts experience. In my view it is one of the most disagreeable parts of this country. Fall River and Foxboro must be among the largest concentrations of stupid ugly people in the world - both veritable eddys in the genetic stream of American life. No wonder you prefer Canada.

There are loonies everywhere, but I don't think you are necessarily one. (Don't hang around with Hobit too long though). Cool

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cicerone imposter wrote:

If we don't replace this group of thugs in November, I cry not only for our neighbors, but for the whole world.

Don't forget yourselves. Wink

I too hope that Bush is not re-elected. He didn't win the popular vote last time, it should be interesting to see what happens this time. I hope more Americans get out and vote! After all, the last election illustrated how their vote really can matter.

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hobitbob wrote:

At the risk of offending those in the green and pleasant lands, I heard similar things from the English in the 1970s.

Really? The "I'm English, I deserve better" kind of thing? *L* Hmm....maybe that's where the Americans get it from! After all, the American roots are primarily British. *ducks and fleeees!!!*

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Now, that's much better! LOL

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Beer....the common denominator....the tie that binds.

*LOL*

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georgeob1 wrote:

Montana,

It's true I don't watch Canadian TV unless you count the odd CSPAN broadcast of the proceedings in the Canadian Parliament - (I find their accents, with the hard consonants and loud aspirations a bit grating and the manner of speech is often as full of bluster as your Mr.Hurtig, but no worse overall than the oily platitudes of U.S. politicians.)

I don't watch much American TV either, and I doubt that viewing more of either it or the Canadian variety would do much to improve my (or your) understanding.

Perhaps you are too influenced by your Massachusetts experience. In my view it is one of the most disagreeable parts of this country. Fall River and Foxboro must be among the largest concentrations of stupid ugly people in the world - both veritable eddys in the genetic stream of American life. No wonder you prefer Canada.

There are loonies everywhere, but I don't think you are necessarily one. (Don't hang around with Hobit too long though).

Well, I lived among the pretty people in the Boston area, but I was a loon there too. I can assure you that my experiences in Massachusetts have everything to do with the way I feel and rightfully so. You could say that I'm a little bitter, but my thought on things would still stand even if I hadn't of had those experiences, except I probably wouldn't feel so strongly about the issues. I do love it here though. I feel so free :-D

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Forget what "they" say about America - look at what Americans say about them!

http://www.pollingreport.com/images/GALnations.GIF

Most of this is the obvious stuff, but can you believe some of it?! I know there's some sour grapes over Iraq, but putting perfectly democratic, bon-vivant, NATO-ally France behind strongman-ruled, cold-and-gruff Russia (which was hardly any friendlier on Iraq)? And struggling-for-democracy, home-of-ancient-civilisation Iran behind home-of-9/11 Saudi-Arabia, Castro-Cuba and Lybia?

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nimh wrote:

Forget what "they" say about America - look at what Americans say about them!

Most of this is the obvious stuff, but can you believe some of it?! I know there's some sour grapes over Iraq, but putting perfectly democratic, bon-vivant, NATO-ally France behind strongman-ruled, cold-and-gruff Russia (which was hardly any friendlier on Iraq)? And struggling-for-democracy, home-of-ancient-civilisation Iran behind home-of-9/11 Saudi-Arabia, Castro-Cuba and Lybia?

Nobody said Americans were bright. And anybody who did, somewhat paradoxically, wasn't very bright. I remember a National Geographic poll last year showing that less than 20% of Americans could even locate Iraq on a map - an this as we are waging war on them!

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IronLionZion wrote:

Nobody said Americans were bright. And anybody who did, somewhat paradoxically, wasn't very bright. I remember a National Geographic poll last year showing that less than 20% of Americans could even locate Iraq on a map - an this as we are waging war on them!

Way to disparage an entire country at one shot. Has America become the average white guy? Has America become the world's whipping post?

ILZ, you obviously have a personal beef with America and Americans...what happened? Did we drop a bomb on your dog or something?

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I think France got the bad rap because they're more prone to voice their opinion about English-speaking Americans and Brits. I remember one of my earlier visits to Paris when I was trying to get service at the travel office at a train station. I had murder in my heart when that bitch treated me with disrespect and disdain. That kind of experience sticks with you.

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