What is your justification for believing in the supernatural?

Atheists try to make their case be scientific and reasoned...and never offer any evidence that is not a variation on "theists cannot produce a god for inspection"...or..."there is no need for a god to explain existence."

Neither of those are evidence there are no gods...so they are neither scientific nor reasoned.

What's an atheistic guess? You're projecting. Further, multiple theistic philosophies don't include afterlives. Indeed, the evolution of religious ideas on the afterlife has largely trended this way, but it's not a clear cut. Simply put, being an atheist or theist says nothing of a person's belief about what happens or doesn't happen upon death. I imagine a great deal of congruence, but not symmetry, Frank.

You're attributing extra clauses to the definition of both "theism" and "atheism."

There is a certain framework to your arguments that is frustrating. You tend to apply parity to all things, and many times when it's undeserved.

Imagine for a moment, a clear glass cup and a pitcher of water. The water can be poured into the cup. The cup can have water in it or it can be empty. How full the cup is doesn't change a statement such as "There is water in the cup." Let's say that the liquid represents belief. A cup with water is a theistic cup. A cup without water is an atheistic cup. Rejection of water comes in three ways: (1) A lid on the cup prevents water from getting in, (2) taking the cup and pouring it out, or (3) the cup may leak. In fact a combination of these three things can happen, or various things can change over time. How much water at any given time could change. A cup could be full to the brim from the first pour, it could be partially full, it could have water but leaking, the lid could be on loose and water could be slowly getting in, it could be moist from being poured out, or it could be bone dry. Many possibilities exist on the how a cup arrives at a state of having water or having no water.

You've chosen to frame atheism as a belief.

There is a problem here. You've defined atheism by an active belief in no gods (or the sometimes more wordy non-belief in gods).

You don't state claims in the negative, Frank.

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You don't state claims in the negative, Frank.

You just did right there!

Y0u are the one using the word “parity”…I am not.

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Imagine for a moment, a clear glass cup and a pitcher of water. The water can be poured into the cup. The cup can have water in it or it can be empty. How full the cup is doesn't change a statement such as "There is water in the cup." Let's say that the liquid represents belief. A cup with water is a theistic cup. A cup without water is an atheistic cup. Rejection of water comes in three ways: (1) A lid on the cup prevents water from getting in, (2) taking the cup and pouring it out, or (3) the cup may leak. In fact a combination of these three things can happen, or various things can change over time. How much water at any given time could change. A cup could be full to the brim from the first pour, it could be partially full, it could have water but leaking, the lid could be on loose and water could be slowly getting in, it could be moist from being poured out, or it could be bone dry. Many possibilities exist on the how a cup arrives at a state of having water or having no water.

Gimme a break with this nonsense. Either make an argument or don’t make an argument.

Corrected: "You are supposed to state claims in the positive, Frank."

You're using parity, and I'm using the word "parity."

You're fleeing.

You don't state claims in the negative, Frank. There is no need to make a negative claim at all. The burden always rests on the positive claim. That's how science works. Scientific scrutiny (skepticism) results in an affirmation (belief) or a rejection. That rejection on the case for gods is called atheism. It's not some other theory of a unbelief/disbelief/nonbelief. Such a thing is superficial.

Sorry, I am a Christian...But it is not because I have a belief in Jesus Christ...

It is because I have a REJECTION of belief, in Buddha, and am not Buddhist....

It is because I have a REJECTION of belief, in Mohammed, and am not Islam...

It is because I have a REJECTION of belief, in Krishna, and am not Hindu...

It is because I have a REJECTION of belief of Atheism, and am not atheist...

That, single handedly, has to be the most brilliant thing I have ever heard a theist say to an atheist! 2 Cents

Assert yourself in the positive, rather than having a God who is not real bring your name down....

That, single handedly, has to be the most brilliant thing I have ever heard a theist say to an atheist!

Assert yourself in the positive, rather than having a God who is not real bring your name down....

If he is not real, and you have no belief, take God out of there....It is not even needed...

Saying "I don't believe in God" is a positive assertion, right?