Vietnam Veterans Website Cites Kerry's Anti-War Activities

Those rabies shots did their job, then. Whew.

Were I a Kerry fan, I think I could spin this one well enough to satisfy the voters that liked him to start with, but not well enough to make any converts. In other words, I guess it doesn't look like a major issue.

Who's that guy?

The next President of the United States.

Who's that guy?

I already told ya...whatsamatta U?

I love this!!!

Imagine that, Bush supporters keep bringing up Military service as an issue.

Please keep this issue in the forefront. This argument breaks on very partisan lines. I don't need to argue it here.

But the more the comparison between Bush's military service and Kerry's is made public the better!

BrandX McGentrix and fishin'. Your job is to keep bringing up Kerry's military service so he has a good reason to keep it in the public debate.

Keep up the good work! But you might try attacking Kerry for raising the deficit or sending jobs overseas as well...

I actually heard (or read) someone on the right say, "Massa-gay-marriage-chusetts" this week.

That's going to be the RNC talking point for the next nine months.

And the more his ties with Jane are out front the more Kerry's approval will dive. I disagree that this is working in Kerry's favor.

If you are a decorated fire fighter it doesn't wash to then become an arsonist.

For goodness sakes, you people. Try to gain the maturity to recognize a smear campaign when someone is shoving down your happy throats.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/02/10/kerry_smear/index_np.html

Make an equation...put McCain in Vietnam on one side and George Bush's Vietnam contribution on the other.

Make a second eqation...put Kerry's Vietnam contribution on one side and Bush's on the other.

Phoenix
You aren't sure Kerry has the 'stuff'? What the fuk does 'stuff' mean? And how the hell do you evidence it? A strut? A claim from a PR machine that it is present? Unsophisticated and uneducated speech? **** on his boots? Arrogance?

And Clinton did nothing re terror threats??? Cast your memory back to the first WTC bombing. The four men responsible are where now? In jail, yes.

Clinton increased the FBI counter-terrorism budget by how much? By thrice what it had been.

When Clinton asked for futher funding, Orrin Hatch said what? "The administration would be wise to utilize the resources Congress has already provided before it requests additional funding."

Who, after the embassy bombing, signed a presidential directive authorizing the assassination of Osama? Yes, Bill.

After the Cole attack, Clinton assigned Richard Clarke to create a comprehensive plan to take out al Qaeda. That plan was described in Time by a senior Bush official as amounting to "...everything we've done since 9-11". Note that the implementation is AFTER 9-11...it was NOT implemented when the Bush administration took office. There was, after all, the critically important star wars thing they had to do.

A great big, sad, pathetically-assembled strawman.

I seem to recall seeing a whole stage full of Vietnam veterans standing behind Kerry every time he delivers a victory speech, and yet the administration can find no one who will verify Bush's appearance at a National Guard base in Alabama.

This is a non-starter for the Republicans, Brand. It will, however, serve to motivate those who served and bled on the Delta to make up their minds (and influence others).

As ebrown_p has indicated: please continue.

decorated firefighters are often aghast at seeing the new fire chief pouring gasoline around standing buildings while handing out bics all the while claiming its the fault of France for the making of Bics.(after all, the US makes Zippos)

Soz- You are right, but it was early in the morning, and that was the best description that I could muster at the time.

There are a few things working on me. One is the deep hatred that I have for Jane Fonda, for what she pulled in Vietnam. It is one thing to criticize the government at home. It is quite another to aid and abet the enemy, at the expense of our military people, who suffered mightily on account of her stupidity.

If I am given evidence that Kerry was more than an adolescent hanger-oner, I cannot support him in any way. Time will tell!

Jane who!?

The election is a battle for the political middle.

Most middle Americans don't remember or care who Jane Fonda was. The 60's are over man. Most Americans in the political middle now realize that Vietnam was a painful mistake.

Let's keep talking about Kerry's Silver Star in Vietnam and the questions about whether Bush fulfilled his minimum requirements in Texas.

So, go 'head.... Bring It On!

The arrogance of Bush supporters gives me great hope.

Phoenix,

I don't understand why this website affected you so deeply. It is clearly a partisan website to dig up dirt on Kerry.

The best they can do is show two pictures of Kerry with Jane Fonda, in one he is waiting to give a speech at the same event as Fonda, in the other he is in the background two rows behind her.

This is hardly a smoking gun. People who are clearly trying to dig up dirt can't find an record of Kerry having any real association with her. There is not record of him speaking about her or meeting her. It happens they were on the same side during a protest movement.

This website is partisan pap -- nothing more. It is a type of intellectual pornography - titilation for those of a certain political stripe. Nothing more.

I would pay no attention.

ebrown_p- I understand what you are saying, and there is certainly some truth in that. That is exactly the reason that I am taking a "wait and see" attitude. I will probably read and learn more about Kerry than I ever wanted to, before I come to my final decision.


I WAS around during the Fonda debacle. I still hate her with intensity, and am suspicious of any of her fellow travellers.

Seems like most of the people who were around don't share your hatred.

I think that's a good thing (and not because of anything related to Kerry).

Actually, ebrown, I'm with you more or less on that. The smear schtick turns me off no matter who does it ... and both parties are quite adept at the tactics of inuendo and guilt-by-association. Somehow, though, I suspect this will play more strongly to Kerry's disadvantage than The Opposition's hammering on Bush the Younger's National Guard record will bother Bush the Younger's campaign.

phoenix

They are yanking your chain. Don't allow it. There's NO CONNECTION between Fonda and Kerry, but there is a picture where they are sitting in the same crowd.