War! The fear mongering is here, again!

I wish you guys would keep your rhetoric straight.

"There is no Islamic World,'"

Until the Islamic World is united in condemning Israeli apartheid

Or

Until neo-cons want to conquer the Islamic World

Or

Until we have to monitor our words and deeds unless the Islamic World should grow it's disdain and hatred for us.

Or

Until the Religious Right in the US wants to see the Islamic World and it's Korans burn in he'll fire.

I'm glad you're so sanguine about the effects of a single nuke hitting Israel. "It won't obliterate the country it will be lucky to"just" destroy part of one city!"

Never mind the effects of radiation spreading across a small nation - that includes, by the way, the Palestinian "homeland."

Never mind that it would utterly wreck the Israeli economy.

Never mind that it will force Israel to devote it's entire national will to a vengeful war.

Nope, such an attack wouldn't be so bad. It's just those Zionist bastards who want to make such a big deal about it.

Meanwhile cynical Leftists such as yourself endless bemoan the hideous impact of Israel's oppression of the Palestinians.

It's not often that Setanta and I are on the same side of an issue, but Good Lord you are desperae to connect Iran's desire for nukes to the Israeli's treatment of Palestinians.

As Set as already noted, it is quite remarkable that you are so willing to take the Iranian theocracy at its word. They say they want the nukes because they hate the Zionist Entity. They hate the Zionist entity because of the way it treats their good buddies the Palestinians. Man you are gullible!

You can be relied upon to sneer at anyone's expression of belief that Israel and America is sincere in their motives and noble in their purpose, but let the Iranian Mullahs, who have ordered the murder of their people, sell you a line of **** and you whip out your wallet and plop down your credibility.

Is someone out there giving you ideological drones endorphin squirts when you mindlessly argue one of their sanctioned points?

What guys are you talking about? I don’t make reference to “the Islamic World” unless I’m quoting simpleton neo-cons and Republicans.

You

Damn, you should consider writing a novel. Sublimate your mental issues into something constructive.

Like I said, flights of right-wing, paranoid fancy. QED

I see. My assertions about the effect of a nuclear strike on Tel Aviv or Jeruselem is fanciful fiction. But then you're obviously correct. What's the big deal if Isreal is nuked? After all, a whole bunch of Jews will be killed and if some Palestinians are killed as well, at least their radiation deformed babies will get to grow up and hobble on flippers without suffering Zionist oppression.

Well yeah, Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians is hideous and something to bemoan.

And much worse that some middling nuclear strike on an Israeli city.

Actually, I’m connecting Iran’s animosity towards Israel with Iran’s alleged quest for nuclear weapons. I’ve further provided the details of that animosity. Try reading the posts that you respond to before slapping together your knee jerk responses.

Oh, so that's what you're doing! What a huge difference!

"Alleged" quest for nuclear weapons? I guess you think the UAEA is a US or Israeli tool. That you adhere to this ridiculous argument is quite telling. Most of your confreres have moved to the "Well, the US and Israel is forcing them to get nukes" spiel. At least you remain true to the dogma. Bravo!

I've read your posts. They are nonsense. If I read them again I may lose brain cells.

However debatable their sincerity is, this does not negate the fact that the Iran’s theocratic regime ties the Palestinian issue to their animosity towards Israel’s Zionist regime. Their support of Hamas speaks to their tying of their animosity towards Israel’s regime with the Palestinian issue. Their support of Hezbollah speaks to their tying of their animosity towards Israel’s regime with the Palestinian issue as well because Hezbollah also ties the Palestinian issue with their animosity towards that regime, Set’s non-sequitur leap of logic conclusion in his comparison of Iran’s funding dollars between Hamas and Hezbollah notwithstanding.

So what you're saying is that even if they are lying, the mullahs are lying and you're going to believe their lies.

Their support of Hamas and Hezbollah speaks to their desire for regional hegemony and the understanding that Isreal is a potent barrier to that goal.

I'll let Set defend his own arguments.

America’s sincerity in their motives and nobility in their purpose like, for example, when the Cheney administration said that one of its reasons for invading Iraq was for the benefit of the Iraqi people is equally debatable.

See? There you go.

I have no idea what this means. Take your meds, you’re starting to babble.

Allow me to explain.

Your arguments are the programmed responses of an unthinking automaton.

Since I am reasonably confident that you are a human being, I need to reconcile your robotic replies with your apparent humanity.

My only answer for such willful ignorance is that you feel pleasure every time you make one of your idiotic charges, and this is enough to keep you spewing the party line of whatever anti-Israel party you've become a member. Opiate addicts are known to do some very stupid things if they will lead to a high.

Where the pleasure rewards come from was the subject of my question.

If you want to dominate the world you better use a soft touch or those you dominate will work tirelessly to remove you.

I have not said that there is no Islamic world.

I'm sorry, but are you saying this would be a good idea?

None of those scenarios take into account the cost of such a mission, the cash cost, the political cost and the international relations cost. All of them would be very high. ... It's a stupid idea from start to finish.

Obviously we disagree.

By the way, whether we bomb Iran or not, Islamists want very much to kill you me and our familes. The fact that we may not live in prime target cities should not offer us a position of safety from which to preach.

No Iranians in 911, no Iranians in Al Qaeda, no Iranian suicide bombers.

izzythepush wrote:

I'm sorry, but are you saying this would be a good idea?

No, my position has been pretty clear throughout the thread.

The problem with bombing Iran is that currently there are no Iranians trying to kill any US citizens.