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How are thay referred to in China, Oristar ?

Ri ben ren （日本人）。

OmSigDAVID wrote:

How are thay referred to in China, Oristar ?

oristarA wrote:

Ri ben ren （日本人）。

Will u translate that for us, literally, Oristar?
Is it in any way a description of their nature or their quality, good or bad??

I remember maybe in the 1970s or 1980s, I went to Taiwan, for their Oct. 1Oth celebration.
At some point, we were required to wear large identity badges
bearing our names and our countries.

We were waiting in line for a long time, during which
(looking at the several Chinese characters on my id. badge),
I asked what thay meant.
I was told that it meant that I was from America.
I asked what each of the characters meant individually,
and it was represented to me that thay meant: "the Beautiful Country". I was surprized.

Can u tell us whether the consensus in China
is forgiveness for the atrocities of the 1930s, for the most part,
or is there a lot of residual resentment and ill will toward the Japanese now ?


David

i.e., that u do not believe what u post,

It's also important to note that neither the UK nor the US have come to terms with the massive war crimes they have committed, still commit.

And yet they both still have the gall to point fingers at others.

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i.e., that u do not believe what u post,

If you don't think what I wrote, below, is completely true, you are absolutely delusional, Om.

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It's also important to note that neither the UK nor the US have come to terms with the massive war crimes they have committed, still commit.

And yet they both still have the gall to point fingers at others.

The facts supporting this statement are voluminous.

I think that u probably do not believe what u post, including the personal insults.
I suspect that u merely post them to cause disturbances for your entertainment,
not because u believe anything that u post. That is trolling behavior.

The Indonesian Massacres and the CIA

by Ralph McGehee

Covert Action Quarterly, Fall 1990


In my original article ( The Nation, April 11, 1981) I tried to explain, through the constraints of the secrecy agreement and the deletions by the CIA's review board, one aspect of the Agency's successful effort to manipulate events in Indonesia in late 1965 and early 1966. The article was based on a classified CIA study of which I was custodian while working in the International Communism Branch of the CIA's Counterintelligence Staff. The Nation joined with me in an unsuccessful lawsuit by the ACLU to gain release of the deleted portions of the article. The Agency claims it cannot delete unclassified lies or speculations. By heavily censoring my article, it effectively admitted to an Agency role in the peration.

In a recent story in the San Francisco Examiner, researcher Kathy Kadane quotes CIA and State department officials who admit compiling lists of names of the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI), making those lists available to the Indonesian military, and checking names off as people were "eliminated.'' The killings were part of a massive bloodletting after an abortive coup attempt taking, according to various estimates, between 250,000 and 1,000,000 lives and ultimately led to the overthrow of President Sukarno's government.

Since then a debate has simmered over what happened. A recent study based on information from former Johnson ad ministration officials, asserted that for months the U.S. "did their damnedest" through public pressure and more discreet methods, to prod the Indonesian army to move against Sukarno without success.

Debate continues over the origins of the coup attempt called Gestapu. Was it the result of CIA machinations, a takeover maneuver by General Suharto, a revolt by leftist officers under the control of the PKI, a power play by the People's Republic of China, a pre-emptive strike by Sukarno loyalists to prevent a move by officers friendly to the CIA, some combination of these factors, or others as yet unknown? I confess to no inside knowledge of the Gestapu.



Historical Background

It is well known that the CIA had long sought to unseat Sukarno: by funding an opposition political party in the mid-1950s, sponsoring a massive military overthrow attempt in the mid-1958, planning his assassination in 1961, and by rigging intelligence to inflame official U.S. concerns in order to win approval for planned covert actions.

Before attempting to describe one aspect of the CIA's role, it is essential to provide background on the scope and nature of its worldwide operations. Between 1961 and 1975 the Agency conducted 900 major or sensitive operations, and thousands of lesser covert actions. The majority of its operations were propaganda, election or paramilitary. Countries of major concern, such as Indonesia in the early 1960s, were usually subjected to the CIA's most concerted attention.

Critics of the CIA have aptly described the mainstays of such attention: "discrediting political groups... by forged documents that may be attributed to them. . . ," faking "communist weapon shipments,'' capturing communist documents and then inserting forgeries prepared by the Agency's Technical Services Division. The CIA's "Mighty Wurlitzer" then emblazoned and disseminated the details of such "discoveries."

The Mighty Wurlitzer was a worldwide propaganda mechanism consisting of hundreds or even thousands of media representatives and officials including, over a period of years, approximately 400 members of the American media. The CIA has used the Wurlitzer and its successors to plant stories and to suppress expository or critical reporting in order to manipulate domestic and international perceptions. From the early 1980s, many media operations formerly the responsibility of the CIA have been funded somewhat overtly by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

From the earliest days, the Agency's International Organizations Division (IOD) implemented and coordinated its extensive covert operations. The division's activities created or assisted international organizations for youth, students, teachers, workers, veterans, journalists, and jurists. The CIA used, and continues to use, the various labor, student, and other suborned organizations not only for intelligence and propaganda purposes, but also to participate in elections and paramilitary operations and to assist in overthrowing governments. At the same time, the CIA manipulates their organizational publications for covert propaganda goals.

The labor unions the CIA creates and subsidizes, in their more virulent stages, provide strong-arm goon squads who burn buildings, threaten and beat up opponents, pose as groups of the opposition to discredit them, terrorize and control labor meetings, and participate in coups.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/McGehee_CIA_Indo.html