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Child Support

 
 
Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:59 pm
Montana--

There should be a name someplace on one of your pieces of paper. If not, there should be a sympathetic ear at the courthouse.

Remember when Beth was urging you to document each and every financial indignity? Before you call, get your ducks in a row.

Also check in Canada--perhaps the Canadian version of Domestic Relations can help you.

Call soon--before he gets impossibly behind. Also, follow up your call with a letter documenting the causes of your satisfaction. The system wants to protect you, but you have to make it clear to the system that protection is necessary.

Think: Squeaky Wheel.

Hold your dominion.
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Montana
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 05:58 pm
Well, here we go again. I called the court and they are telling me there's nothing I can do except appeal, which means I'd have to make the trip back down there. I then called my ex who gave me another of his many sob stories. He says that something happened and he ended up in the hospital this week ans has been out of work. He also said that he was seeing a shrink and is suppose to be on 5 different meds, but is only taking 2 because he can't afford the others. He said his meds come first. He then tells me that he is going to have to go back into court to have the support lowered and that he can get doctors notes. I have been waiting for him to play the disability card, so here we are again. I just got finished writing a letter stating his scams and my fear of his next scam being a fake disability and will be faxing that to the court tomorrow along with my child support calendar for this year. I asked the clerk superviser if I wrote a letter to the judge if he'd get it and she said no, so I'm going to fax it to the clerks office to place in my file. I also went through all my paperwork from court since June and I found the name of the mediator we had then, so I'm going to try to get in touch with her and fax this stuff to her as well.
The clerk superviser also to me the only way I'm going to get the answers to my questions is by talking to a lawyer. My lawyer down there is an idiot and it's like taking to a brick wall, so here I am again in the same **** I was in at this time last year when I filed. It took almost a year for me to get justice in this matter and now I wonder if it was even worth the trouble.
I hope that SOB rots in hell!!!

Of course he has to pull this **** right before Christmas.
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Montana
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 06:07 pm
My ex also told me that he was going to have to get me back in court to have his support lowered so he can afford his pills from the shrink. I don't think he can get another court date seeing that he obviously can't have me summonsed up here.
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Montana
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 06:11 pm
Now I need to know if I can file contempt without having to go down there.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 06:57 pm
Yuck. He sure has some good strategies on the go.

He may still be able to summons you. Don't dismiss that possibility out of hand. Have you been in touch with your provincial and federal members of parliament? Their offices might be able to hook you up with some good free advice.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 07:02 pm
Re: Child Support
Montana wrote:
My child support was late this week, so I called my ex today to ask where it was and he informed me that he is no longer working. He wouldn't tell me why he lost his job, only that he is out of a job. I recently filed papers with probate court so I could have my child support increased and I have just been waiting for the court date, which will be anytime now. I believe my ex stopped working in spite of me because I am going after him for maximum child support. Almost 5 years ago I settled for less than half the support I was entitled too, but now I am in need of the maximum and he goes and loses a good job.
I know the back support will add up for the time he's not working, but I need to know if it will be worth it to take a long trip (1400 miles both ways) to go back into court. Is it possible that a judge would increase my support if he's not working.
My ex has been working in the same company for over 10 years now and I know he either quit or was fired from his job and I believe that him losing his job right after he was served with court papers is some kind of scam he and his demented wife thought up so I couldn't get my support increased. Either way, this is a very bad thing for me at the moment.

I'm hoping some of you legal buffs out here can shed some light on where I stand.

Not a good way to start my 40's :-(


Remember this from January? Have you documented the status of each payment since the beginning of the year? When it was due - when it was paid - was it fully paid - all the details - any calls he made to you or calls you made to him - make sure you've got every single payment fully documented with complete details of what it took to get each one made.

Paper paper paper the file.

The one with the best and, usually, most papers wins in this kind of thing. If he's really got medical records to support his claim, you need something very strong to counteract it.


<edit to fix a mismatched tense>
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Eva
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 07:51 pm
AW, CRAP!!!!!

I'm SO sorry to hear this, Montana! Damn! Damn! Damn!

Apparently the bikini wax didn't get the job done. Guess we're gonna hafta use tweezers. Here, I brought a whole box full. There's a pair for you, a pair for me, a pair for Noddy, a pair for ehBeth...anybody else want some?
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 10:01 am
Beth
I haven't contacted anyone but the courts and my goal right now is to find a way to get a letter to the origional judge in this case. I just wrote a 6 page detailed letter explaining all the scams my ex has pulled so far and that I suspect his next move will be to scam some sort of disability and I faxed that to the court along with my child support calendar for this year that documents the days the payments were made and the amount. I called the clerks office to make sure they recieved everything and placed it in my file and they confirmed that.
He goes into court one week and he's suddenly disabled the next. I don't think that will fly. If the courts look into the file, they will see the pattern in the scams he's pulling and I'm sure they see this every day. I know that the judge we had in June and July seemed to see right through my ex and was not happy with him at all.
If my ex goes on a disability, I know for a fact that he's work under the table as well because I know his wife will not tollerate the very little he'd get on a disability, so if he does end up with a disability, I will call SSI and tell them I suspect fraud and have him investigated. All I know is that I came way to far to give up on this now, but the one thing I won't do is go back down there to go back to court. If I had to make that trip again, it would take everything that I gained, so it simply wouldn't be worth it.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 10:33 am
Montana - why aren't you taking advantage of the other resources available to you. Don't you and your mother pay taxes in Canada now? Use the offices of your members of provincial and federal parliament. They love to be able to help people out - find them resources - it's part of their job.

Explaining the scams in a letter is one thing. Documenting the details of the payments is another. A narrative will only go so far.

Remember Joe Friday on Dragnet? Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 10:45 am
Beth
I'll look into it, but in the mean time, I have documented all his child support payments dating back to 2000 and I sent along my calendar for this year.

What would I look under in the phone book to call these people? I will call them and see what they have to say. Thanks Beth!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 10:57 am
federal link

provincial link
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 12:48 pm
Thanks very much Beth. I'm researching the US/Canada laws now. I did this research last year and I think I remember reading that the government can only get involved if the DOR is involved, but I'm not positive about that. I'm going to check out the links you gave me and do research on this through the weekend, so I can start making some phone calls on Monday.

Wish me luck :-)
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 12:50 pm
Let them do the research for you, Montana. That's part of their job.

Call both offices (start provincially) - tell them what the deal is - they will tell you what they can and cannot do.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 02:12 pm
Ok, will do. Only pproblem now is that the provincial link you gave me has a large list of people and since my town is not listed there, I don't know which one to call.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 02:20 pm
Do you know the name of the riding you're in?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 02:20 pm
You can email it to me at home and I can look it up for you.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 02:31 pm
I'm really not sure of anything. I'll email you the info later on. Thanks Beth. You're a life saver.
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Letty
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 02:59 pm
and besides that, Montana, she knows the name of every dog in her neighborhood, maybe we should have your stray deadbeat dad neutered.

Wish that I could help, but I don't have friends in high places in Boston or Canada. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 03:14 pm
LOL Letty. Yes, he should be neutered at the very least. He got himself into this mess after having another child, when he wasn't providing for the first one. When my son was little, deadbeats got away with simply going into court and saying they're unemployed, but times have change and Mr. Sperm Doner has to pay the piper. He's got me on him and his wife as well. His wife is just as greedy and selfish as he is, so she's ready to throw him out on his ass. I'm hoping she doesn't do that because atleast she manages to keep him sober for the most part and makes sure he's working and I know where to find him.

Yeah, where does Beth get all this info? Could she be some kind of secret government agent, lol :-D
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2004 04:38 pm
<walks through singing "secret agent girl, secret agent girl">
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