The UK Puritans Carve another Notch in the Bedpost

@izzythepush,

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he wasn't brought up as an American. I see you're drinking again, I'd be careful. You've not got a lot of brain cells left

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Oh his mother did not raised him with a least some more American outlooks on life then English is that your claim as from reading his comments it seems otherwise.

Of course why would I assume you had read any of this writings.

As far as drinking you could turn the head of the Mormon church into an alcoholic.

Dealing with either you dishonesty and or your lack of knowledge get old very fast.

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@BillRM,

History is never as simple minded as you seems to be Izzythepush.

You've got a real brass neck to call someone else simple minded, and an incredibly simple mind if you label an abstract concept such as History 'simple minded.' So you believe History has a mind?

You have a simplistic view of History, you seem to view it as you saving our 'asses' and nothing more. If that were the case you would have entered the war in the summer of 1940. America acted in its own interests. It was in America's interests to keep Britain fighting prior to Pearl Harbour, and at the end of WW2 America was an unrivalled superpower.

I don't think for one minute that we would have won without your help, but you should be in no doubt of the British contribution and sacrifice. When you try to airbrush that contribution and sacrifice from History, don't expect to be treated with anything other than contempt.

The USSR made a significant contribution as well, and their casualties put allied casualties in the shade. The Russians don't constantly tell us they saved our 'asses' during WW2. The truth is we all saved each other's 'asses,' so you should be every bit as grateful for our troops and the Soviets as you expect us to be about yours.

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@izzythepush,

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but you should be in no doubt of the British contribution and sacrifice.

Nice and who had claimed that the USSR and the UK was not very important in ending the threat of the Nazis?

However it was not the USSR that allow you to keep fighting it was the US.

In any case it seem odd how you make up positions I had never taken and then attack them.

You never do get tired of making a fool of yourself with your silly claims and misinformation.

Never since Jackson in 1815 had pounded Pakenham and his forces at New Orleans had a British citizen make such a poor showing as you had done against me.

I suggest you do what the British did in 1815 and run for the boats.
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@BillRM,

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Never since Jackson in 1815 had pounded Pakenham and his forces at New Orleans had a British citizen make such a poor showing as you had done against me. I suggest you do what the British did in 1815 and run for the boats.

That's your opinion, and it's as erroneous as everything else you've posted. The phrase 'saving your asses' completely belittles our contribution, and, had you a basic understanding of English you would realise that.

To prove your anglophobic credentials you then carp on about the battle of New Orleans which seems so significant to sad little men like you. And it shows your tendency to cherry pick details that support your argument and ignore everything else. If you want to talk about that conflict you could mention whose capital city was put to flames. (Clue it wasn't London)

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Footnote, I had always been an Anglophile and I am still an Anglophile as all people and all groups had fools that do not reflect well on them such as izzythepush.

As annoying as he is he is nothing at all compare to Nelson, Newton, Fleming, John Harrison, Alex Turing, Shakespeare, Arthur C Clarke, Churchill and on and on and on......................

They had played an outstanding role in the history of the West ever since the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

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@izzythepush,

Burning a city and then leaving is not the same as keeping control of gateway of the main water way of the US.

One had zero military meaning and the other end stop you from gaining control of this river so important it allowed the North to cut the south in half in our civil war.

But then you had no real understanding of almost anything including military issues.

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@BillRM,

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Footnote, I had always been an Anglophile and I am still an Anglophile

You hide it very well. If you are an Anglophile you might want to stop going on about the Battle of New Orleans and how you saved our 'asses' in WW2.

It's funny how I've never been aware of you posting anything other than attacks on Britain before I accused you of anglophobia. So far you've focussed on what you believe is wrong with our legal system and belittling our war record.

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@BillRM,

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Burning a city and then leaving is not the same as keeping control of gateway of the main water way of the US.

One had zero military meaning and the other end stop you from trying to cut the US in half as the North cut the south in half in our civil war.

But then you had no real understanding of almost anything including military issues.

You also fail to understand that we were fighting Napoleon at the time which was a far more pressing issue. Mabe you should thank the French for saving your 'asses' in 1776 and 1812.

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@izzythepush,

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So far you've focussed on what you believe is wrong with our legal system and belittling our war record.

You seem to be sadly going downhill at the moment in regard to your legal system and your society in general.

That we save you in WW2 from needing to surrender to Hitler is not in question as far as I can see and in no way reflect badly on the fight you did put up given your position and resources.

Any moral issues/failings came from the peace terms you and France force on Germany at the end of WW1.

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@izzythepush,

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You also fail to understand that we were fighting Napoleon at the time which was a far more pressing issue. Mabe you should thank the French for saving your 'asses' in 1776 and 1812.

First it was your need for manpower for your navel thank to your little problem with Napoleon that cause you to drag our citizens off our ships including one of our warship after turning it into a floating ruin.

It did not help that you annoy us in others way such as having a British agent trying to talk the New England states into leaving the union.

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@BillRM,

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First it was your need for manpower for your navel

You're the one doing the navel gazing.

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@izzythepush,

Very cute.......and that is the extend of your abilities.

Oh by the way I love it that you complained that I been questioning your legal system and society when that was the subject of this thread in the first place.

You are giving up more and more of your freedoms and gaining little or nothing in return.

The more your government go to ban edge weapons the more it would seems that you have a problem with your young people carrying them and in fact a large percent of your young people now feel that they had no choice but to had such weapons on them for self protection by your own government studies.

You even now had an increasing problem with gun crimes of all things!

Your society is currently in a world of hurt as you had panels to decide if a 17 years old girl is too sexy and too young looking for an adv of all things.

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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 - 1790)

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@BillRM,

It's funny isn't it that it's only people like you who think we've less freedoms than you. And to be quite honest we don't really care. We've got a lower homicide rate than you, and the freedom to die from a treatable illness through poverty is a freedom you can keep.

I've just been watching the Spain match in which we beat them one nil. Just before kick off there was an advert for William Hill offering odds of 14-1 on Lambert scoring first. Why don't you kick up a fuss about that freedom not being available in the land of the free?

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@BillRM,

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You are giving up more and more of your freedoms and gaining little or nothing in return.

We get the illusion of safety, but not actual safety, as we are less safe when we are in chains....David is right about this, the free man is the man who has the will and the capacity to defend himself.

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@izzythepush,

Strange on this website US citizens had no problem with addressing our short comings with the rest of the world and yet you seem far too sensual to deal with British short comings.

In my own lifetime you was a great people it is a shame indeed.

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@hawkeye10,

Hawkeey it more in that the UK government does not trust the mass of it own people and instead of trying to limit access to weapons by people who had proven they are unfit to have them they are trying to take them away from everyone.

The problem being the bad people will arm themselves with the happy knowledge that most people will have no means of protecting themselves.

To make it far worst as the situation get worst the good people will end up breaking the law for self defense and now they are criminals in the eyes of their government.

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@BillRM,

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The problem being the bad people will arm themselves with the happy knowledge that most people will have no means of protecting themselves.

Utoeya island

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@BillRM,

I have no problems with our shortcomings, but our gun control and pornography laws are not among them. This is a sovereign state and as such we decide on our own laws, we're not the slightest bit interested in your warped view of the world. When you have a lower homicide rate than us you can talk about the problems with our laws, until then just shut up.

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@izzythepush,

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we're not the slightest bit interested in your warped view of the world

Too bad but you are on a website where opinions are express freely even concerning your commonwealth.

More important things exist then a low homicide rates such as freedoms.

If the county that produce Nelson and Churchill now think otherwise I can only feel sorry for a once great people.

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You know if a people had come to the conclusion that nothing is more important then safety there is no logical end point of any kind.

A few or even one person might react badly to a certain kind of porn so let ban it for the the thousands or ten of thousands who might own it.

If one person had used an object to kill such as a Japanese sword let ban Japanese swords for everyone in a country of 60 millions or so with thousands or ten of thousands of such swords.

England seems to be on the cliff edge of insanity for the whole society if this is the true conditions.

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