@GracieGirl,
Quote:JTT, I don't believe America does that. There are alot of good people here. I'd like to think more good than bad. USA isn't a bad place and if Americans were doing all of that then how come no one knows about it and tries to stop it? Those are horrible stuff but I don't think America causes it.
I too believe that there are way way way more good people than bad in the US. I think that that's the same for Germany or Japan or many of the other countries that have committed atrocities just in the last century.
There are a lot of really good people who don't believe these things, Gracie, many are even here at A2K. After hearing for a lifetime that the US is some kind of savior for the oppressed of the world, it's exceedingly difficult for people to come to grips with the truth.
And I'm afraid to say that the truth tells us a very different story. But it's everywhere, if one is willing to look.
The US media, many people, high government officials have known of these things in every instance where the US has engaged in horrible brutalities in all those countries listed. And it has all been covered up.
All you have to do is check and you'll see that in almost every US invasion of countries the world over, the US has supported brutal dictators. In many cases they have directly engineered the overthrow of democracies and the installation of a US puppet.
Saddam Hussein was a US installed and supported dictator. The Taliban were created and financially supported by the US. But like all US dictators, they only last as long as they do exactly as the US says.
Here's a former top CIA agent who grew disillusioned with what the US was doing. He too initially believed that the US was doing these things for the good of others but his experiences showed him that the ideal was being met, was never intended to be met.
I warn you, his descriptions are graphic and you might not want to take this step. I can hardly blame you if you didn't, Gracie. But there's nothing wrong with having a realistic approach to one's country. You don't have to hate a country because its leaders have committed heinous acts. You can still love the country and just try to stop the crimes it commits.
That's what those military veterans are trying to do. I would say that none of them hate their country.
Again, don't watch this, read this, unless you think you are ready. It's not at all nice, but the truth often isn't.
THE SECRET WARS OF THE CIA:
part I
THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AND THE CIA'S COVERT ACTIONS IN ANGOLA, CENTRAL AMERICA AND VIETNAM
by John Stockwell
a lecture given in October, 1987
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_1.html
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THE SECRET WARS OF THE CIA:
part II
CIA COVERT OPERATIONS IN CENTRAL AMERICA, CIA MANIPULATION OF THE PRESS, CIA EXPERIMENTATION ON THE U.S. PUBLIC
by John Stockwell
a lecture given in October, 1987
John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell's book In Search of Enemies, published by W.W. Norton 1978, is an international best-seller.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html
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John Stockwell - CIA's War on Humans - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ioJGMCr-Y
John Stockwell: The Third World War - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VxnCBD9W4
