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Let's Talk Women's Suffrage!

 
 
saab
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 09:08 am
@CalamityJane,
1970 I moved to Germany but I really got to know people during 1971.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 09:11 am
@saab,
Ah yes, back then we still used the bush drums and washed the clothes down by the river.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 09:33 am
@saab,
ha! that's kind of how I found things there in the 1970's as well.
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saab
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:22 am
@CalamityJane,
I did not have to washs cloth in Fulda.
But being used to any amount of hot water it was kind of strange to move into an apartment with marble stairs and just a couple of years old having 3 litres hot water heater in the kitchen and 5 litres in the bathroom.
That was 8 litres all together. In our summercabin in Sweden we have 60 litres of hot water.
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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:21 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I think it would be awesome to vote but I don't get alot of political stuff. I'm still a little confused about some stuff do maybe I shouldn't vote right now. Haha! Maybe like 16 instead of 18! That would be awesome! Smile
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:37 am
@GracieGirl,
At least you know you've got things to learn about politics. That's the kind of self-knowledge that would make you a good voter. Your curiosity would make you ask questions and demand answers. That's much better than adults who just vote the way they've always voted, without thinking about the options.
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:40 pm
@ehBeth,
Yeah Thanks ehBeth! Mr. Green Smile Wink
sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 02:48 pm
@GracieGirl,
Btw Gracie have you seen this yet?

http://rookiemag.com/

I've been keeping an eye on it to see if it's something my kid would be interested in, I think it's just a smidge beyond her yet. But might be right up your alley. I'm generally impressed with it thus far. (Brand-new.)
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:01 pm
@sozobe,
Cool sozobe Thanks!

Looks really awesome to me! I love it! There's alot of cool stuff there. Smile

But how do you create an account or sign up? I dont see it anywhere.

THANKS SOZOBE! That's really great! Mr. Green
sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:06 pm
@GracieGirl,
It's not a forum -- it's an online magazine. Its founder, Tavi Gevinson, was inspired by the (actual paper) magazine "Sassy."

You can comment on posts, but it's mostly just to read.

Glad you like it!

I actually thought of it before I read the most recent post/ article, which is Miranda July talking about her first feminist action, which fits right in here. But I did think of it because it generally has a sort of feminist slant. Within a teen girl context.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 03:27 pm
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
I think it would be awesome to vote but I don't get alot of political stuff.
All u need to do
is read the newspapers or watch the news on TV.
That will bring u up to date.



GracieGirl wrote:
I'm still a little confused about some stuff do maybe I shouldn't vote right now.
I worked in political campaigns when I was younger than 13.
I argued with passionate intensity for the conservative-libertarian Individualist side, against liberalism.
I was OUTRAGED at being disenfranchized.
It was more than obvious to me that most voters
(when I tried to convince them)
were far less informed than I was, regardless of age.
U don 't have to be old to read a newspaper
or a book.

Citizenship begins at birth.
I have a hunch that if kids coud legally vote,
the results 'd not be to my liking; the left woud benefit
and personal freedom woud suffer, in the name of "the common good"
but morally kids have the right to participate in the legal system
that controls them; either that,
or thay have no moral duty to co-operate.

IF government excludes children from the electorate (as it DOES),
then its MORAL authority over them is only that of a schoolyard bully.
It INSULTS children to ask them to pledge allegiance to THAT.


GracieGirl wrote:
Haha! Maybe like 16 instead of 18! That would be awesome! Smile
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 05:01 pm
@sozobe,
Oh cool! Well, I think its great! Thanks sozobe! Very Happy


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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 05:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Yea, but not all kids are smart enough to vote David. Voting is a big deal and its important. Most of the kids at my school are idiots LOL and they're older than ME! HAHA!! Very Happy
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 10:47 am
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
Yea, but not all kids are smart enough to vote David.
Voting is a big deal and its important. Most of the kids at my school are idiots LOL and they're older than ME! HAHA!! Very Happy
Intelligence is NOT a criterion of the franchize.
No intelligence test is administered.

If kids got the legal right to vote
it woud harm the candidates for whom I vote,
but I resent kids getting screwn out of their natural right to vote ( as I was those years ago ).





David
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 12:08 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
All u need to do
is read the newspapers or watch the news on TV.
That will bring u up to date.


That would certainly keep a body up to date on the latest line of US propaganda.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 04:00 pm
@JTT,

David wrote:
All u need to do
is read the newspapers or watch the news on TV.
That will bring u up to date.
JTT wrote:
That would certainly keep a body up to date on the latest line of US propaganda.
Yea, well, since US propaganda usually co-incides with
the actual FACTS, that 's OK.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 04:23 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Yea, well, since US propaganda usually co-incides with
the actual FACTS, that 's OK.


Not even close, you deluded old putz.
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 07:58 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
Yea, but not all kids are smart enough to vote David.
Voting is a big deal and its important. Most of the kids at my school are idiots LOL and they're older than ME! HAHA!! Very Happy
Intelligence is NOT a criterion of the franchize.
No intelligence test is administered.

If kids got the legal right to vote
it woud harm the candidates for whom I vote,
but I resent kids getting screwn out of their natural right to vote ( as I was those years ago ).

David, kids my age are still learning about politics. I only took Civics last year and this year Im taking American History. We're still learning. How can we vote when we're not gonna understand what were voting for or againsts or why we're voting for who were voting for. Picking a president is really important. Isnt George Bush the reason why America's broke? We don't need another one of those as president... My dad's buget for christmas and birthdays were cut in half a few years ago thanks to Mr. Bush. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes





David
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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 08:03 pm
@JTT,
JTT. Why don't you like America? Sad It's great here. Where do you live?
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2011 10:22 am
@GracieGirl,
I love America, Gracie.

But I really don't like the imperialist, hegemonic actions of successive US governments.

Would you like the actions of a foreign government that came into the US and carpet bombed US villages, towns and cities, causing the deaths of millions of Americans?

Would you like the actions of a foreign government that trained and hired mercenaries to torture, rape and murder innocent US men, women and children?

Would you like the actions of a foreign government that installed a brutal dictator as the government of the US? A person who also tortured and murdered Americans who spoke out against that brutal dictator?

Would you like the actions of a foreign government, that, in league with that brutal dictator, stole the wealth of America, badly abused and killed its workers and sent all the wealth back to its own country?
 

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