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So, suppose the far right wins

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
It's more fun not to.
Do actively desire to be unintelligible????
There are some people in this forum who so badly off
in terms of mental health (I await you or other leftist including me among them)
as not to be intelligible.
Is that your choice??

I stand behind everything I say (unless its a joke).
I make an effort to be lucid.

If any person wishes NOT to be understood,
then I see no reason that anyone can benefit from conversing with him.





David
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:10 pm
So, pages of gun dickyness and non interest for gun dickyness, and more gun dickyness.

I'd like to hear more, re plans the far right has.

This is not meant as a trap, as I sometimes agree with those I'm not supposed to.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:33 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
So, pages of gun dickyness and non interest for gun dickyness, and more gun dickyness.

I'd like to hear more, re plans the far right has.

This is not meant as a trap, as I sometimes agree with those I'm not supposed to.
Putting aside humor for the moment, Osso,
it is my opinion that freedom of lethal self defense
and Constitutional freedom to immediate possession
of emergency equipment, is critical and FOUNDATIONAL
to life under the US Constitution as the Founders intended this Republic to be.
The REASON for that is that personal defense is RADICAL self reliance
for the preservation of your life and property,
instead of reliance upon the collective for existence,
accompanied by docile submission to the collective's leaders;
"authority from the top down, obedience from the bottom up"
as Hitler put it and Stalin woud agree.
That world vu envisions a permanent state of childhood
from the cradle to the grave, with government (our employee)
taking over where parents left off. I REJECT THAT, preferring rugged Individualism
and for that reason, I choose a 1OO% non-deviant application
of the freedom contemplated by the US Constitution.

If there is any reason
that u shoud refuse to consider these principles of personal freedom
when thay r set before u by a lover of guns (or a lover of anything),
that is beyond what I can see.





David
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Om sig, I have read your posts for at least ten years.

I am presently interested in other posts.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:59 pm
There are a lot of serious issues before us right now. Gun control and the like isn't one of them.

To answer osso's question, I believe a Republican Administration after 2012 would take up the following issues;
=> Spending reductions across the board. Reducing the staffing in many government departments and eliminating some of the existing duplicative programs.
=> Repeal of Obamacare and replacing it with legislation that standardizes insurance regulations across state boundaries with an eye towards fostering nationwide competition among them. In addition legislation for tort reform on medical malpractice (and other) suits, limiting some categories of damages and some areas of class action litigation. Finally some reforms of Medicaid giving more initiative and authority to states.
=>Some action to tackle reform of Social Security and Medicare - depending on the size of their majority and the political courage they are able to muster. I would expect to see the initiation of a sequence of increases in the age of eligibility for both more or less like those we say for Social Security in the 1990s after legislation passed during the reagan Administration. More than that will likely be very hard to do, but that will be a lot of they do it right.
=> New action to limit the reach and power of labor unions for federal workers. Current law forbids collective bargaining over pay and benefits for Federal workers as these are inherent, non delegable functions of government. This leaves open the question of just what is it that the Labor unions representing Federal workers do for all the money they extort from them. Along with that, new appointees to the NLRB to tame that out-of-control organization.
=> Revisions to the Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank laws regulating public corporations and financial institutions. The rogue Consumer Affairs department funded by the Fed and out of the control of the Congress will be abolished along with a host of federal regulations.
=> Energy policy will be revised with a view towards greater production of domestic gas and petroleum and to reduce our very unfavorable balance of trade.
=> new education legislation, possibly repealing NCLB, but generally reducing Federal control, granting more to individual States and encouraging charter schools and other innovative challenges to the current hidebound education establishment.
=> Immigration reform involving some element of fast track or amnesty for those here illegally but without a criminal recort, but perhaps involving penalties for the illegal entry. In addition action to empower states to check on immigrations status as a normal part of other police actions; prohibit or penalize sanctuary rules in cities and other locales; and restriction (or penaltiees) on employers who hire illegals. Possibly an update Braceros program for temporary workers for agriculture in the Western states (since even with 12% unemployment Californians won't do these jobs).

It's also possible that they could succomb to politics as usual on several of these iussues - they have done that before. However with our total public debt now well over 100% of GDP the cost to us all of failure would be very great indeed.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:03 pm
@georgeob1,
Thanks, Georgeob, that is what I was looking for.

I'm tired now but will look at your compilation tomorrow.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:21 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
Om sig, I have read your posts for at least ten years.

I am presently interested in other posts.
OK then; don 't read my posts.





David
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I do read them. We do not agree. I say that, but I have probably agreed with you once in a while, likely not about guns.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:32 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
There are a lot of serious issues before us right now.
Gun control and the like isn't one of them.
As a libertarian, I certainly see anyone 's right to an opinion, even Jeff Dahmer
n Benito Mussolini had the right to believe whatever thay wanted,
before thay were murdered, but it blows my mind that
a fellow human being (George) can see an issue that is literally one of life & death as NOT being a serious issue.

To MY mind, getting killed by violent predators is more serious
than any other issue possibly CAN be.

Is it just ME??? Am I the only person in this forum
who believes that continuation of life after predatory violence is important??

Maybe I 'm alone (except for the USSC). O, well . . .





David
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:40 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Your views are OK by me. I just don't see any significant legislative issues pending in that area. I do believe that recent events along our border strongly suggest that more vigorous enforcement of existing registration laws and limits on bulk purchases is in order - however that is another subject.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:50 pm

I guess it does not mean much; its only a story, just fiction,
but tonite I watched the re-run of The Mentalist,
during which its star spoke disdainfully of guns (as Osso does), to wit:
" O, u people and your GUNS !" directed toward the police.

At the end of the show, he shot his nemesis, Red John,
with a semi-automatic pistol that he had in his pocket.

Is there any kind of INCONSISTENCY here????? Yea, its just a story,
but if an anti-gun person actively NEEDED a gun to preserve his or her life
from a murderer or from an animal,
will he or she scoff and scorn it????? I wonder.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:05 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
Your views are OK by me.
I just don't see any significant legislative issues pending in that area.
Thru out most of America, that is true,
but I live in an unAmerican part of America: New York City.
Altho, I personally have had plenty of guns for years,
decades and centuries, my fellow citizens here are
walking around effectively naked, in states of helplessness.
I actively desire them (and all Americans) to be well prepared for potential self defense.

If thay do equip themselves thusly, (in my opinion)
this will tend, over time to cause them to vote more conservatively and America will be more free.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:08 am
ERRATUM:
"As a libertarian, I certainly see anyone 's right to an opinion, even Jeff Dahmer
n Benito Mussolini had the right to believe whatever thay wanted,
before thay were murdered, but it blows my mind that
a fellow human being (George) can see an issue that is literally one of life & death as NOT being a serious issue."



Shoud have been:

As a libertarian, I certainly see anyone 's right to an opinion; even Jeff Dahmer
n Benito Mussolini had the right to believe whatever thay wanted,
before thay were murdered, but it blows my mind that
a fellow human being (George) can see an issue that is literally one of life & death as NOT being a serious issue.





David


Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2011 12:11 am
@OmSigDAVID,
dave...

I've decided from mow on Ima use theme music with your posts.

here is the current tune...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVm241fA_Xg&feature=related
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